Humber FV1611(A)

[FV1611A]

More great pictures and thank you. I must confess I hade no idea how much hard work you had done to FV1609.

I have seen the X reinforcement under the wing on the air intake side as it is intact and I have rested on it peering into the engine bay before. The nearside one is Kerry Packered I must admit! I have seen the stepped edge on the locker lids and wonder from your description if this coincides with a slight projection to the liner insert that is the locker bin itself so that the lid 'nests' over the upstand to prevent weather ingress?

I have highlighted what can just about be seen to be an upstand where the arrow is pointing?? But I am speculating.

[fv1620]

Yes the everted edges of the locker orifice mate with the raised lid profile. This what you have identified.

Classic car body restoration suppliers have a range of hand operated bending gadgets which might do the fancy bits. For simple bends I have one of these. With care you can do a long run or dismantle for small pieces as it comprises 3 pieces of unequal lengths. Looks better than the vice marked metal on one piece & a "hammered effect" on the other!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150mm-SHEET-ME...item2c592c4d93

[FV1611A]

Thats a clever little impro for a bench vice! The only limitation would be sections only 150mm wide / long. Another option could be a small gauge angle profile that can be tack welded underneath as the angles can be purchased a small as 12x12mm or even 10x10mm / 3/8"x3/8".

I will end up doing some simple fabrication drawings as a master to fabricate from so will share these with you once they are done!

Regards

Wayne

[fv1620]

Wayne I have a large B&Q not far away that is useful for small quantity metal products. It beats wasting half a day driving into the city to queue up at a trade counter where they don't want to sell diddley quantities to the public anyway.

Besides if you overbuy in B&Q you can take it back for a refund. But I have learnt not to do that, as excess bits will always be needed for something eventually. You're too young to know about this, but some of us get 10% off on Wednesdays

With the exception of brake pipes, I also get my plumbing there.

[FV1611A]

I have noticed that they do angles, box section and small flat bar etc, which will be useable. However the flat steel sheet would be from a steel merchant I guess, given the sizes required.

You have however been very creative with the microbore copper tubing and compression fittings etc, which did look neat for your fuel lines etc when viewed from underneath FV1609 when I last visited Salisbury.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by FV1611A

Thats a clever little impro for a bench vice! The only limitation would be sections only 150mm wide / long. Another option could be a small gauge angle profile that can be tack welded underneath as the angles can be purchased a small as 12x12mm or even 10x10mm / 3/8"x3/8".

I will end up doing some simple fabrication drawings as a master to fabricate from so will share these with you once they are done!

Regards

Wayne

If I have to bend sheet metal I do something similar with my bench vise and a big hammer. The limitation I have to accommodate is the depth of the vise's jaws. But for the man who needs more toys, that one would be just the ticket!

[FV1611A]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

If I have to bend sheet metal I do something similar with my bench vise and a big hammer. The limitation I have to accommodate is the depth of the vise's jaws. But for the man who needs more toys, that one would be just the ticket!

Terry simple is sometimes best, albeit are you saying that you can do longer than 6" lengths by folding and then sliding along in the vice to then fold, and so on? Clive mentioned marks on the steel, but I guess the aesthetics depend on where the folded part is seen or used.

I believe that 'Frost Automotive' in the UK do a reasonably priced bench/ vice folder on larger scale than the jaw version posted.

[FV1611A]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

If I have to bend sheet metal I do something similar with my bench vise and a big hammer. The limitation I have to accommodate is the depth of the vise's jaws. But for the man who needs more toys, that one would be just the ticket!

Terry a man can never, ever have enough toys The wife has asked me what I want for Christmas this year and a pair of 6T (12T pair) HD Ratchet Axle Stands and an Engine Stand are reserved on Santas Sleigh Woop Woop!

[fv1620]

Yes the side lockers for my RUC Pig are different from the production Pig. But these shorter & less complex lockers are not RUC specific as such.

All of the original 20 FV1609s were like this for Troop Trials in 1956. It was only in 1958 that 10 of these were obtained by the Ministry of Home Affairs for RUC use. All but one of these survived for conversion to hard tops by Belfast Tool & Gauge. The 10 that continued in Army usage were converted to FV1611/12 & uparmoured when the lockers of their various kinds were removed. Most of these ended up as hard targets.

[FV1611A]

Originally Posted by fv1620

Yes the side lockers for my RUC Pig are different from the production Pig. But these shorter & less complex lockers are not RUC specific as such.

All of the original 20 FV1609s were like this for Troop Trials in 1956. It was only in 1958 that 10 of these were obtained by the Ministry of Home Affairs for RUC use. All but one of these survived for conversion to hard tops by Belfast Tool & Gauge. The 10 that continued in Army usage were converted to FV1611/12 & uparmoured when the lockers of their various kinds were removed. Most of these ended up as hard targets.

I couldn't have put it better myself......No honestly I couldn't