Morris-Commercial Wireless info needed

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

WOW Hanno! That's a nice one. Is it anywhere near our part of the country?

Hi Alex, it's located near the centre of Holland, about an hour drive from where you live now.

H.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Hi Alex, it's located near the centre of Holland, about an hour drive from where you live now.

H.

Hanno,

Is there any place in Holland that is more than an hours drive away from anywhere else !

Mike

[Bruce MacMillan]

The interior view that Cliff posted is a wireless set #3 mounted in a Leyland 6 wheel lorry. This is a very early photo. The WS#3 was first produced in 1934 and was quickly replaced by the WS9,11,19,etc family.

In the Morris Commercial, layout depended a bit on which radio system was used but there was a common element of what went where. For the WS11 all units were inline in carrier and mounted on fore and aft shelf on off side. Batteries were 2 12v@85ah or 4 6v units mounted one on each side of the operators seat.

[Keith Brooker]

The Best info on British, Canadian and Australian radios fitted in Jeeps, Trucks, Command Trucks, Trailers Ect, Is Wireless for the Warrior by Louis Meulstee. Vol 1 Wireless Sets No 1 Set to 88 Set. Radios and Equipment 1932 to 1945 & Vol 2 Standard Sets of WW2. Vol 1 Shows the inside of house body radio 1500Cwt Trucks and much more Vol 2 WW2 and post war Veh radio set ups, as some war time radios were used up untill the 1970s [ 19 Set ] We used them in the Army Cadet Force. They are not cheap to buy but are the Best for info. He has a good website, Type in google, [ wireless for the warrior ] and that should find it.

[Les Freathy]

3 shots of the Morris wireless 15cwt

1. the nearest i can get to a interior at the moment, well it shows where they threw the kit

2. late body types in the ETO one in attendance with Bedford QLs
cheers
Les

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Is there any place in Holland that is more than an hours drive away from anywhere else !

You would think so, in a country of only some 16,000 square miles, eh? But in today's traffic, almost every place is well over an hours' drive

H.

[austin tilly]

I found a Fordson Van on the Internet. I send an e-mail, but haven't got a answer. Maybe the interior is the same.


source: Shuttleworth Collection

Same vehicle, other site

Source: HighwayGold Photo Gallery


source: http://www.geocities.com/britsatwar/transport.html

Cheers,
Arjan

[Alex van de Wetering]

Wormerveer, Holland 1945

Source: www.niod.nl

[cletrac (RIP)]

Here's some pix Mike Timoshyk sent me that he took inside a wireless van at the Canadian War Museum. He didn't say but it looks like a 15 cwt.

[Carruthers]

Hi Hanno
Should have joined mlu ages ago but this thread has prompted me to do so!!!

The vehicle in question doesn't have a radio body. At least it isn't the House wireless Type 3 which you are discussing. Differences between the Type 3 used for radio are the one from the museum are: no rectangular window which overlooks the cab, no aerial mast base above this window and no smaller aerial mounting posts on the front nearside edge. No generator doors with louvres on the near side or rear Rh side. No spare wheel mount on the roof (that i can see). Most noticeable are the larger windows (two upright frames where the wireless house has only one). I think it's a recorder vehicle as i've seen pix of similar types the iwm archives. i was there two weeks ago looking for Wireless body pix.

Regarding the Shuttleworth WOT 2H, I was asked to look at it by the Collection last month to assist them in identifying what it was. There's nothing inside!! I don't know exactly what goes inside the recorder vehicle I'm afraid. But the new owner doesn't need to look for the radio body interior as it's not a radio body, so that should save some cash! Recording data for intelligence for battlefield analysis or radio broadcast seems likely. Wonder of the BBC letters on the truck were added later??

I have 2 house wireless bodies (enough to make one!) which includes an interior but i have no photos either!! The other pix posted showing the inside and open door are the earlier wooden bodied version (look at the planks) which is why they are shown in the desert. The steel bodied version never saw action except in NW Europe on the lengthened C4 Mk 2 chassis. This is confirmed by my Dad who worked in one in Normandie. When he was posted to Palestine after the war they were supplied with the earlier version in wood, left over from the desert campaign, much to their discust!

Anyway I hope this helps Hanno + other members

cheers
simon

[Grant Bowker]

The CWM's wireless is on a CMP F15A chassis. It came from the collection of Andre Gibeau, along with Mercedes described as either Hitler's or Goering's. The body is a 2K1 (the aluminum skin in steel frame type) making the whole assembly a wire-5.
The Gregg data book only lists the wire-5 on C15A chassis (like the KL welder was only on F15A), so I don't know whether this body has been transplanted or whether the wire-5 was built on both frames.

[Keith Brooker]

I think this is a RAF Morris WT. Photo from my collection

[cmp truck]

In WftW, page WS19-73 to -77 are the diagrams for the installation of various No. 19 sets in the 15 cwt truck. The illustrations show: No. 19HP in a Wireless house type, Mk.II and a No. 19 in a house type Mk.III, and a No. 19/19HP in a truck 15 cwt, 4x2, FFW.
The latter is a soft top vehicle. These illustrations show the mounting of the sets, but not the complete interior of the house. There is also an illustration of the aerial mountings on the Mk.III vehicle.
Also, I recall there were other sets used in these trucks, but I can't remember what they were.
Hope this helps.
Ian Cooper