Morris-Commercial Wireless info needed

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I found this extract from the WD Mechanization Board draft report of 1939-40that was never published:

To improve the vehicle in its role of wireless truck, a standard Morris-Commercial type C.S.8.T. 15-cwt truck was fitted with modified rear springs to the company’s drawing no. C.9699, and trials were carried out in direct comparison with a similarly-loaded standard truck. Personal observations and vibrometer records showed that the vehicle ran much more smoothly on roads with the new springs.

Is there any evidence that post-1939 orders required these modified rear springs please?

[Les Freathy]

They certainly look like the Tamiya tyres Cliff i only ever made one LRDG and the tyres seemed to melt at the bottom giving a great effect of flats on a shot up truck, obviously something wrong in the factory compound set up
cheers
Les

[Rolf S. Ask]

Originally Posted by David_Hayward

I found this extract from the WD Mechanization Board draft report of 1939-40that was never published:



Is there any evidence that post-1939 orders required these modified rear springs please?

David
In Spare Parts List for model C4/GS (Contract 294/23/S.6862 (Con. 23A9-Cat Ref.338) it is listed with part number C.9699 for the rear road springs. So it was for sure used post 1939 since the C4 was first made in 1942.

Rolf

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Thanks my friend, and I agree it looks to me as though it's an Ant by the front mudguard alone.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Les are they the Tamiya LRDG Chev kit wheels?

Yes Cliff ..............They are indeed the Tamiya LRDG wheels. They performed well for the first few years after I finished the model, about 15 years ago, but than cracks turned up. I also built a CS8 GS which is pictured on Mike Kelly's website, which has the same cracks. I have replacement resin wheels, but still haven't fitted them.

and the wireless truck does not look like a Morris..........you can see the bottom edge of the windscreens is horizontal, unlike MCC models, I am going for a Guy Ant.

I agree with Richard. I recon it's a Guy; apart from the front wing, the door hight and fuel tank combo also looks different from a Morris. Anyway, it's a nice picture and rare to see pictures of the house type radio trucks in service.

Here are two pictures of the wireless truck:

WOW Hanno! That's a nice one. Is it anywhere near our part of the country?

Alex

[austin tilly]

Maybe this info will help.
The numbers on a id-plate are:

MCC, Cont no 23\6778
Chassis no 2202 04\WT 3446
Cat.Ref. no 337
WD. no no
Body no 257

The id-plate is located on a metal black-out-plate for the window of the backdoor.

Cheers,
Arjan

[Dave Page]

Hi Guys,
that image of the WS truck is for certain a: Truck, 15cwt 4 x 2, Guy "Wireless-Ant", the following link will help identify certain points:
http://www.military39-45.freeuk.com/update03/guy002.htm
Cheers,
Dave

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

WOW Hanno! That's a nice one. Is it anywhere near our part of the country?

Hi Alex, it's located near the centre of Holland, about an hour drive from where you live now.

H.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Hi Alex, it's located near the centre of Holland, about an hour drive from where you live now.

H.

Hanno,

Is there any place in Holland that is more than an hours drive away from anywhere else !

Mike

[Bruce MacMillan]

The interior view that Cliff posted is a wireless set #3 mounted in a Leyland 6 wheel lorry. This is a very early photo. The WS#3 was first produced in 1934 and was quickly replaced by the WS9,11,19,etc family.

In the Morris Commercial, layout depended a bit on which radio system was used but there was a common element of what went where. For the WS11 all units were inline in carrier and mounted on fore and aft shelf on off side. Batteries were 2 12v@85ah or 4 6v units mounted one on each side of the operators seat.

[Keith Brooker]

The Best info on British, Canadian and Australian radios fitted in Jeeps, Trucks, Command Trucks, Trailers Ect, Is Wireless for the Warrior by Louis Meulstee. Vol 1 Wireless Sets No 1 Set to 88 Set. Radios and Equipment 1932 to 1945 & Vol 2 Standard Sets of WW2. Vol 1 Shows the inside of house body radio 1500Cwt Trucks and much more Vol 2 WW2 and post war Veh radio set ups, as some war time radios were used up untill the 1970s [ 19 Set ] We used them in the Army Cadet Force. They are not cheap to buy but are the Best for info. He has a good website, Type in google, [ wireless for the warrior ] and that should find it.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Is there any place in Holland that is more than an hours drive away from anywhere else !

You would think so, in a country of only some 16,000 square miles, eh? But in today's traffic, almost every place is well over an hours' drive

H.