Leopard 1 Driver Training Cabs in Canada

[Lance Wiebe]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Leopard Figures

Two Questions

1. So when D&M tanks went in for rebuild were other Leopard C1s converted to D&M status thus accounting for the 37 recorded?

2. The 24 hulls, I have nothing on these, where they given their own individual CFR numbers and if so, what were they?

I got in a lot of trouble at one point. I had one turret in Gunnery that was so worn, it was almost impossible to use on the ranges. When one of the D&M tanks had to go for rebuild, I did a swap. Instead of putting its IMR turret on it, I put the worn out turret on it. Apparently, the ECC for the turret and hull did not match, so my gunnery tank obviously had not been modified for the driver cab. Ottawa was not pleased at all.

I would assume, (just guessing) that some tanks going for rebuild were slated for the School in Gagetown, and were modified to accept the cab.

Most of the extra hulls were sent to 25 CFSD in Montreal to be stripped and used for spare parts. A few (three or four, I can't remember exactly) were used to replace the C Sqn worn out hulls, and adopted the original CFR.

[Ed Storey]

Here is another photograph of the Leopard Driver Training Cabin.

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[Darrell Zinck]

Hi Lance

Welcome aboard. Im sure that with all your varied service that you have a lot of detail and facts to add to the Forum.

I may be in touch soon to help pick one of those C2s parked at the old railhead worth keeping for the Museum.

Is that Tom Skeltoons in the Adv D&M photo??

regards
Darrell

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Darrell Zinck

I may be in touch soon to help pick one of those C2s parked at the old railhead worth keeping for the Museum.

That's funny. When I was in Gagetown in 1980, I was attached with C squadron. The leopards were still on warranty, and down by the rail-head near base supply were about 10 Centurions. They were rumored to be heading to Switzerland to be made into gun emplacements but I think they ended up in Isreal? There were also two Cents and two ferrets parked down Shirley road waiting to go for targets.



I scrounged a manual out of one of the cents at that rail-head. Usually when I hold onto a manual I eventually end up with an example of that vehicle in the stable. Fortunately that did not happen this time.

[Lance Wiebe]

Originally Posted by rob love

That's funny. When I was in Gagetown in 1980, I was attached with C squadron. The leopards were still on warranty, and down by the rail-head near base supply were about 10 Centurions. They were rumored to be heading to Switzerland to be made into gun emplacements but I think they ended up is Isreal? There were also two Cents and two ferrets parked down Shirley road waiting to go for targets.



I scrounged a manual out of one of the cents at that rail-head. Usually when I hold onto a manual I eventually end up with an example of that vehicle in the stable. Fortunately that did not happen this time.

Interesting story, when I came back from Germany in 1980 for my Advance Comms course, a friend of mine said that the Swiss company and soldiers checking the Centurions out were accompanied by Israelis in civilian clothing.

Things that make you go hmmm......

[Luc Perreault]

I know of a leo trainer in private hands in Québec. Parked outside a garage.

[Lance Wiebe]

Originally Posted by Darrell Zinck

Hi Lance

Welcome aboard. Im sure that with all your varied service that you have a lot of detail and facts to add to the Forum.

I may be in touch soon to help pick one of those C2s parked at the old railhead worth keeping for the Museum.

Is that Tom Skeltoons in the Adv D&M photo??

regards
Darrell

Thanks Darrell!
I recognize both Tom Skelding and Frank Austin in the picture.
I never had the Advanced D&M, I had advance Comms and Advance Armour Gunner.
You know where I hang out, come see me anytime and we'll go have a look.

Lance

[John Genereux]

Originally Posted by Lance Wiebe

I got in a lot of trouble at one point. I had one turret in Gunnery that was so worn, it was almost impossible to use on the ranges. When one of the D&M tanks had to go for rebuild, I did a swap. Instead of putting its IMR turret on it, I put the worn out turret on it. Apparently, the ECC for the turret and hull did not match, so my gunnery tank obviously had not been modified for the driver cab. Ottawa was not pleased at all.

I would assume, (just guessing) that some tanks going for rebuild were slated for the School in Gagetown, and were modified to accept the cab.

Most of the extra hulls were sent to 25 CFSD in Montreal to be stripped and used for spare parts. A few (three or four, I can't remember exactly) were used to replace the C Sqn worn out hulls, and adopted the original CFR.

Those hulls were sent to 25 CFSD, but the stripping of them was done at 202 Workshop Depot. I was here when a bunch of the hulls arrived for " re-supplying specific parts " that were critically low. I remember that one part that was not on the list was final drives. We must have scrapped about 10-15 sets of them. Some parts that were not required by the supply system were squirreled away in the shop to be used on future leo's coming through here.

[jdmcm]

Here is a Leopard 1 from Soucy Defense with driver cab. Photo credit:Soucy Systems

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