Interesting Find

[wayne lane]

Had a recent weekend away recovering the remains of this old Morris from rugged bushland in the Hunter Heights are or were these vehicles common in Australia

[Mike Cecil]

No, not common at all.

No doubt Mr Kelly could add more to this thread...?

Mike

[wayne lane]

yeah thanks Mike Tony Smith in an earlier conversation said Mike could be the go to man was hoping Mike may be able to give me some feed back on numbers existing in Australia to see if it is viable for a project example chasing parts and so on

Thanks for any input

Wayne

[Tony Smith]

The Aero Windscreen versions are uncommon.

[Tony Smith]

It doesn't look like much, but all the dissasembled mechanical parts are there, just missing clues to what the rear body was.

[ozm29c]

Hi Wayne,
I have had this old morris engine sitting in the paddock for years. If it is any use to your restoration, you are most welcome to have it.
Cheers
John

[wayne lane]

Thanks John have inboxed you cheers Wayne

[wayne lane]

Hi Tony thanks for adding the extra photos looking forward to sourcing pictures of the rear body Thanks Wayne

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by wayne lane

Hi Tony thanks for adding the extra photos looking forward to sourcing pictures of the rear body Thanks Wayne

Nice find, but a lot of work as Morris-Commercial spares are hard to come by.

For rear body drawings, see Mike Kelly's work in the thread WW2 British 15 cwt body drawings.

HTH,
Hanno

[Mike K]

Tony had previously contacted me . The chassis nr is stamped on the rear pass side spring mount. I have various spares if u need anything Wayne.
Production finished during 1942 , not sure of the exact date. The later ones , 1941 production, found here in Aust. seem to be refugees ( not found in the AWM books for some reason ), these have the closed type cab and full windscreen like the C4 has. The chassis are rather flimsy, I can flip one over easily - try doing that with a CMP chassis ! The rear axle is strong with heavy duty half shafts. The chassis are prone to rust , took me ages to find a decent chassis. Somebody found a nice CS8 in Victoria recently, , seen on the ' old wrecks' or similar Facebook page , its location is unknown to me ATM. There is a nice original barn find CS8 in the Moama museum, ex John Carroll of Ballarat, it was seen at the Ballarat airshow 1985 , a few of us were there. Interesting, the CS8 prototype was built in 1934 , a pre-war liaison involved the WD and MCC together . Production seems to be around 21000 built , all body types.

I do have a 1939 dated example , and a 1940 both aero screen types. The engine parts are scarce , its basically a pre war Morris 25 saloon car engine also used in the CV trucks . I managed to buy new valves from Cox & Turner who have other bits.Found new pistons on eBay .Made new valve guides on my lathe . The water jacket cover screws broke as I undid them, need drilling and tapping

[Tony Smith]

Inspiration, Wayne!:

http://www.milweb.net/webvert/a2712/91520

[Mike K]

These barn finds keep turning up now and then in the UK .

I think around 200 CS8's arrived here in Aust. as refugee cargo . These appear to be from contract V4154 , with the full cab and windscreen. Or were these CS8's retrofitted with full cabs somewhere ? Who knows ? Lanes Motors the Morris agents, got first dip at purchasing these and each little Morris dealership in Victoria got a few to sell . I recall Colin Anderson telling me , just after the war, the Morris agents in Shepparton had CS8's for sale . Colin's neighbour had a CS8 for sale at one time in the early 50's , but Colin said it looked too antique looking , he didn't buy it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-RARE-194...&ul_noapp=true

[ozm29c]

Wayne,
I tried to send these photos to you by PM but I can't seem to attach an image to my message. No matter, I will post the detailed engine photos here for you.
Cheers
JW

[ozm29c]

More photos

[ozm29c]

Last of the photos

[Mike K]

That's a civilian 37 to 39 truck engine , used in the CV range. Still quite ok for a CS8 , but the head & waterpump position are different . The coolant jacket is open on the civvy engines and enclosed on the military engines.The big ends are poured like a chev 216, expensive to rebuild.

BTW the engine nr. is on the brass disc ,( 50 cent coin size ) seen next to the distributor , just under the drain tap . The number will have a ' O ' prefix. The military engines were usually a ' OH ' prefix

[wayne lane]

Thanks Mike for coming on board with my Morris find I'd like to keep in touch with you as I progress as to what spares you do have available as you know this could be drawn out Thanks Wayne

[wayne lane]

Thanks for the extra photos John I'll run with our chat we had regarding pickup any parts of interest Thanks Wayne

[Tony Smith]

Not Australia, Wayne, but some NZ Artillery vehicles in Egypt in WW2, Dec 1941:

[pauldavies]

Hi Wayne I don't know if it's any good to you but I have loads of bits like brake parts, suspension and general odd's and ends that have been left over from my C8 reno, Mike will be a source of knowledge as to commonality?
Paul