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Alex, I don't think the Scout was ever set up for anything else, other than the Boys (in the front)
Your Hotchkiss mount would be quite narrow compared to the Scout mount. Also we (N.Z.) took on the Hotchkiss because we were short of LMGs. They were as I recall surplus WWI guns. The British carriers were built around specific guns, First the M.G. Carrier was built around the Vickers water cooled MMG. This carrier was superseded by 3 carrier models; The Bren, equipped in the front with, funnily enough a Bren gun. (about 1937- 1938) Originally built around the idea of the gun crew being dropped off and the driver retiring with his carrier. The Scout was a fighting carrier equiped and built specifically for the Boys anti tank rifle, in the front and carried a Bren in the rear. (1939ish) The third one being the AOP (an adaption of the Scout) No Boys, no Bren LMG, just personal arms. The point being that the British built the carriers around current arms designs.
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Today Alex sent me a photo of his LP2 front armour. It has been drilled to take the Scout, Boys mount. He is excited!
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Does that mean there's a stash of them in NZ?
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I've seen photos of Boys rifles mounted in Australian Carriers, but haven't yet seen any photos of them in Kiwi carriers. So these mounts existed in Australia at least.
My hull having the holes for this mount could be a cross-over from the Australian blue-prints on which our kiwi LP's are based? There are Boys rifles here in NZ though, so they could've been mounted in Carriers. There is a boys mount in the LP Carrier books that is essentially two hooks that clamp the rifle down on to the bracket. The bracket then fixes to any vertical flat plate on the carrier. Perhaps this kind of hook arrangement is also used in the Scout mount? I'll see if I can find a picture to show you what I mean.
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They may have gone with most of the 106 recoiless rifles, and most of the M113s
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If the mount is for the boys your your missing a complete adaptor of some description that attaches the boys frame to that mount, most likely attached to the frame via the monopod mounting screw, as its at this point it's strongest.
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Kevin, the mount that Alex posted would work by hooking the hook bolts over the frame and pulling it down onto the grooves in the plate.
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