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Old 26-05-13, 01:32
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Richard,

The owner was always insistent it was 1936 but this does not sit well with me.

I wonder if the factory always designated the whole series 12/4 on the plates and the various model designations were marketing department inventions?

I am awaiting an original manual which has on the cover Morris 10cwt, Series "Y" to see if there is reference to 12/4.

Have a look at this info on the Morris 12/4. The mystery deepens! The 12/4 cars were only side valve until 1937. Would a van, not starting production until 1939 have been afflicted with a sidevalve from the past when everything coming down the line had overhead valve engines?

http://www.iamo.org.uk/Models/Twelve...ies.htm#engine

As a spoiler I have just found a Fordson E83 which we know was certainly in service but the lesser power (1,100cc) and atrocious top speed of 40mph knocks it out for any Normandy trip. The Morris advertising may actually be correct about speed and from various sources 12/4 is rated at 72mph top speed with its 1,500cc motor - not many small cars of that era could do any better than that.

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Old 26-05-13, 01:42
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The Morris advertising is actually correct about speed and from various sources it is rated at 72mph top speed with its 1,500cc motor - not many small cars of that era could do any better than that.

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The performance of the Morris surprises me, not so bad a choice after all. Those Ford E83W were still common in the early 60's and when I went to school, the meals were brought across from a nearby school kitchen by a local garage under contract. They had a open back Ford, and often a couple of extra people would be with it to push start it, always a scene of amusement!
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Old 26-05-13, 01:58
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I think she would be a pretty wild old ride coming down the Swiss passes at that speed in a Morris van although the brakes are full hydraulic and the steering, shock absorbers etc seem well built and robust.

Here is some useful info on all the Morris commercial vehicles.

http://www.iamo.org.uk/commdirectory.htm

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I think she would be a pretty wild old ride coming down the Swiss passes at that speed in a Morris van although the brakes are full hydraulic and the steering, shock absorbers etc seem well built and robust.

Here is some useful info on all the Morris commercial vehicles.

http://www.iamo.org.uk/commdirectory.htm

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Old 26-05-13, 09:32
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Maybe this should be on a new thread but too valuable to not put up somewhere.

http://home.zonnet.nl/carclub.ij-v5/...Enginecode.pdf

Even so it makes no sense to my Morris 12/4 SY/TWV 20????

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