Blitz with dual wheels?

Harry Moon · #1 05-12-12, 06:03

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Originally Posted by warren brown

I see! So is the stud pattern on a CMP compatible with a GMC or Studebaker. This might sound ridiculously naiive but I'd never thaought of it before...

The spindle for the brake drum not the studs for the wheel.

lynx42 · #2 05-12-12, 09:00

Warren, Don't you remember that your Stude US6 had 6 stud wheels and your C60X has 8 studs. The tyres are interchangeable being 7.50 X 20" on the Stude and are the same on the F60S Tippers.( Not the C60X).

No drum or stud changes here in Australia Harry and Bob. The English Bedford and Austin 7.50x20" wheels fit straight on without changing brake drums or anything else allowing duals on the rear and a more centralized to the brake drum, front tyre.

Regards Rick.

Ganmain Tony · #3 05-12-12, 10:05

F60S. Fitted with duals.

Three of the rear wheels look like post war but one looks authentic military.

Obviously I cant verify if it had a tipper body but the tow hooks position may provide a clue.

BSM · #4 05-12-12, 12:30

An early 50's pic of the rear of a Tractors Artillery No. 6. Aust. based on a C60S chassis and sporting an extra wheel. Rod

Tony Smith · #5 05-12-12, 13:27

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Originally Posted by lynx42

Warren, Don't you remember that your Stude US6 had 6 stud wheels and your C60X has 8 studs. The tyres are interchangeable being 7.50 X 20" on the Stude and are the same on the F60S Tippers.( Not the C60X).

Regards Rick.

The Aust Tippers with Duals used 8.25-20 tyres. Most definately 8 stud and used the standard CMP hubs/brakes, etc. Not just a straightforward swap with Bedfrod or Austin wheels, the front hubs has a spacer used because of the excessive offset of the dual wheel rim (as evidenced in Ganmain Tony's pic above without the spacer).

If anyone want to give duals a run for their money, there's a set of six on e-bay at the moment:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Chev-Blit...item1c2e00f804

warren brown · #6 06-12-12, 00:21

Sorry Rick - I'd engaged typing before engaging brain. As soon as I'd sent I realised. (It's 17 years since I had the Stude! Wow!) interesting about the austin/ Bedford swap over. The 1920s Dennis fire engines I have do the same - often they,d replace the big vintage disc wheels with standard Bedford wheels no worries. In fact one of the fire engines has Bedford rear wheels at the moment. Anyway I'll go and have a look at this farmers truck and report back. Warren

Mike Cecil · #7 07-12-12, 02:11

Warren

In case the Bailey Bridge sections misled you, the images posted by Rick C are both tippers, just different models. The Aust Army's CMP range of trucks during WW2 had only one series with duals as standard as far as I'm aware: tippers. Post war, some No.6 LAA tractors were so fitted as well, with Units equipped with both single and dual wheel-ed tractors.

Tyre size for tippers with duals was 8.25x20.

The spacers for the front wheels were essential to retain the steering geometry (king pin angle to point on the ground where the centre of the tyre was)

Regards

Mike C

Hanno Spoelstra · #8 07-12-12, 12:29

I got this message plus picture in my mailbox:

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Hi guys,

I'm a lurker, not a member, but the Softskin forum has a current thread dealing with 'Blitz' dual wheels.

You may be interested in the attached pic, which although it doesn't show it clearly, you can however just make out the dual wheels behind my late father's right leg (esp. the patch of light on the ground between the duals). It also plainly shows the 'Blitz' being used as a prime-mover with semi-trailer attached.

The pic. is of Allan Layton after being demobbed to the Aust Army Service Corp, 3rd Military District General Transport Company shortly after WWII.

regards
Allan Layton (jnr.)

Mike Cecil · #9 07-12-12, 18:21

Yes, I hadn't included the wartime 'Tractors' in my post .... just the Trucks.

Mike C

Keith Webb · #10 09-12-12, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I got this message plus picture in my mailbox:

This truck didn't start life as a semi trailer tractor, it was in fact a tractor of a different sort, a No6 Bofors LAA tractor which as we have seen were often adapted to use these wheels. It's original engine umber was PR3874462, chassis 28442200698, disposal date May 8th 1959 at 3BoD.

Allan, is it possible to get a large scan of this image please? You can contact me via Hanno.