Modern part numbers for CMPs

Private_collector · #1 04-11-11, 23:45

In addition to the Raybestos WC4511, an exact duplicate is Wagner WC4511.
Also listed in some places as "F4511".
These are 1 &1/2in, and come with bleed screw and dust boots installed.
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Bob Carriere · #2 05-11-11, 00:42

Hi Tony

Can't remember who took over who but Raybestos seems to have taken over Wagner...... these wheel cylinders are fairly generic and have a multitude of use in commercial/industrial applications such as forklifts,etc..... both front and rear. Remember that most of these brake parts have roots to FORD....even on a CMP chev truck

They have been a off the shelf stock items in heavy truck parts stores in Ottawa or at worst an overnight delivery. Around $55 dollars in Canada.... how much did they hurt you for ...?

I remember walking into a bearing / seals store in Ottawa looking for the big 6.5 inch seal for the front brake drums..... the clerk apologized for having only one in stock but the second one will be here tomorrow he said....and $20 bucks...

Bob

Bob

Private_collector · #3 05-11-11, 12:56

Surprisingly little cost for these.

They were slightly dearer than the Raybestos list price, but as those were out of stock with no immediate plans to restock, it was the best option for me.

At Rock Auto, they were just shy of $65.00 US. That makes it roughly the same for $AUD at that time. Shipping via FedEx added further $30.00ish. So overall $160.00 for the pair, landed to my door.

I am aware of resleeving/reconditioning of originals at $75.00AUD. So basically another $5.00 each for new versus refurb! No contest really. They are a very good finish and quality from what I can see so far.

I will be buying the WC4571's for front in next few weeks.

Bob Carriere · #4 05-11-11, 15:28

Hi Tony

Shipping from the USA is the real killer for you guys.

When the cost of a new one is similar to the resleeving in stainless steel one has to think about which in the long run is best. A brand new wheel cylinder will eventually rust and deteriorate particularly with the significant seasonal changes. On the other hand a rebuilt WC with SS lining should last a life time...... in fact the rubber boots would be the first to dry up and crack.

The life of a NEW WC would also be affected by the frequency that the vehicle is actually being driven. Putting your vehicle away for the Winter for months with no driving probably causes more damage than a whole Summer of driving.

Bob

Private_collector · #5 10-11-11, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Hi Tony
When the cost of a new one is similar to the resleeving in stainless steel one has to think about which in the long run is best. A brand new wheel cylinder will eventually rust and deteriorate particularly with the significant seasonal changes. On the other hand a rebuilt WC with SS lining should last a life time...... in fact the rubber boots would be the first to dry up and crack.

The life of a NEW WC would also be affected by the frequency that the vehicle is actually being driven. Putting your vehicle away for the Winter for months with no driving probably causes more damage than a whole Summer of driving.

Bob

We're a bit lucky up this part of Australia. Winter temperatures rarely get down to 0c even in mid winter. We don't really have to hibernate vehicles, unless that is because of fuel price these days. Southern states don't fare so well with temps though. A good pair of gloves and a "Dr Who" scarf would protect against the winter cold.

There is more information about my old WCs that I didn't speak about. The threads on brake line nut & bleeder screw were suspect strength from corrosion and a safety concern for me. Previous owner dismantled lots of things, then stored them in a wooden box within a leaky shipping container. The WCs and some other parts in box were more deteriorated in storage than would have been on the truck. Well I can't really say that for sure, but they certainly went down hill in storage. This is also the case for front cylinders.

Private_collector · #6 04-01-12, 10:59

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These are NOS not new, but since I have found them to be correct, I thought I would post them here in case this info is of any use to anyone else.

Keith Webb · #7 05-03-12, 21:05

Does anyone have a modern part number for Ford ignition points, or a source for them in Australia? Is there a Bosch number?

Wayne Henderson · #8 26-06-12, 12:08

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?
Thanks,
Wayne.

hrpearce · #9 26-06-12, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?
Thanks,
Wayne.

Hi Wayne, I took my old hoses to Repco and they sent them away and had new copies made.

Hanno Spoelstra · #10 26-06-12, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?

Have you read the brand name and part numbers posted at the beginning of this thread by Chris?

H.

Phil Waterman · #11 27-06-12, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?

Hi Wayne

As Hanno's post points to there are the Brakes Hoses front (2 req'd) Raybestos BH5931 front (1 req'd) Raybestos BH25629
rear (1 req'd) Raybestos BH31669 numbers.

But there are two hose lay outs one using 2 hoses one on each side that go directly from the chassis to each backing plate. The other system (later) is a three hose system with one hose going from the chassis to the front axle housing then steel tubing to each end then hoses from each end of the axle to the backing plate.

Reason for change brake hose damage from tire chains I believe.

Recently I replaced the hoses on my HUP using replacements from NAPA #4900
Attributes
Brake Hose End Type : Male - 7/16"-20 & Male/Female - 5/8"-18 External & 7/16"-24 Internal
Brake Hose Length : 17.5"

Rear hose NAPA # 21102
Attributes
Brake Hose End Type : Male/Female - 5/8"-18 External & 7/16"-24 Internal & Male - 7/16"-20
Brake Hose Length : 23.25"

If your local auto supply can not cross those numbers try having them look by the Attributes they should be able to find a listing for the hoses and different lengths.

Hope the numbers help.

Cheers Phil