Viking.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Craig S.

So, how did you come to own the 5/4??? Maybe some visiting unit on winter exercise forget to load it up for the trip home?

The CAST Brigade:

The 1st Canadian Division was reformed in November of 1989 followed the Canadian Government's decision to end the Canadian Air-Sea Transportable (CAST) Brigade Group commitment to reinforce Northern Norway. 5th Canadian Brigade Group, or more accurately, 5e Groupe-Brigade du Canada, based in Quebec, was thus available for other tasks. The CAST rapid-reinforcement commitment had been encountering problems, most graphically demonstrated during Exercise BRAVE LION in 1986, which prompted Canada to start formal consultations with NATO about consolidating the CAST Brigade and 4th Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group, based in southern Germany. The two separate forces would have meant critical logistical and medical support needs would have gone unmet in case of real war. The hole thus created by the removal of the CAST Brigade Group was filled, to a degree, by the creation of a NATO Composite Force (NCF) which Canada promised a battalion group towards.

Many vehicles were prepositioned in Norway for the CAST Brigade. In an act to save face/money, most of the equipment was turned over to Norway when the commitment was terminated. This included the lionshare of Canadas deployed MOSV BV-202 and 206 Fleet. I find it rather odd that we gave away some of the most useful vehicles for our climate, which we never did replenish.

Scotty

[nm190]

Originally Posted by armybuck041

The CAST Brigade:

The 1st Canadian Division was reformed in November of 1989 followed the Canadian Government's decision to end the Canadian Air-Sea Transportable (CAST) Brigade Group commitment to reinforce Northern Norway. 5th Canadian Brigade Group, or more accurately, 5e Groupe-Brigade du Canada, based in Quebec, was thus available for other tasks. The CAST rapid-reinforcement commitment had been encountering problems, most graphically demonstrated during Exercise BRAVE LION in 1986, which prompted Canada to start formal consultations with NATO about consolidating the CAST Brigade and 4th Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group, based in southern Germany. The two separate forces would have meant critical logistical and medical support needs would have gone unmet in case of real war. The hole thus created by the removal of the CAST Brigade Group was filled, to a degree, by the creation of a NATO Composite Force (NCF) which Canada promised a battalion group towards.

Many vehicles were prepositioned in Norway for the CAST Brigade. In an act to save face/money, most of the equipment was turned over to Norway when the commitment was terminated. This included the lionshare of Canadas deployed MOSV BV-202 and 206 Fleet. I find it rather odd that we gave away some of the most useful vehicles for our climate, which we never did replenish.

Scotty

This is interesting, and very true. The Hägglunds Bandvagn 206 is very versatile and almost unstoppable, the only competition i've ever seen is the sibling: bv-202, and a modified Laplander.

[nm190]

Interior + crewcab.

[nm190]

Got pics? Yes.

[rob love]

That will be the CFR painted on the dash: full CFR will be 76-28542

[Craig S.]

Scotty -

Thanks for the info on the CAST Brigade. Spoke to a retired RCR WO yesterday afternoon about exercising in Norway and he explained the same basic info on our assets in that location. He said it was the early 90's when he was last there with 2 RCR. Wouldn't mind seeing pictures of the warehouses full of equipment during that period. Sounded like it would be similar to Wainwright - unit shows up, sign for the vehicle + EIS, use and return at end-ex. Next unit repeats.


nm190 -

Thanks for the pics.

Cheers,

Craig

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by armybuck041

The CAST Brigade:

Many vehicles were prepositioned in Norway for the CAST Brigade. In an act to save face/money, most of the equipment was turned over to Norway when the commitment was terminated. This included the lionshare of Canadas deployed MOSV BV-202 and 206 Fleet. I find it rather odd that we gave away some of the most useful vehicles for our climate, which we never did replenish.

Scotty

Scotty;

Canadian vehicles were prepositioned in Norway actually before the CAST Brigade. As early as 1982, while a component battalion of the AMF(L) Brigade, 1 RCR BG left vehicles behind in Norway upon redeployment back to Canada.

Cheers

[nm190]

Does this mean that it belonged to AMF(L) Brigade, 1 RCR BG?

What can be read from the CFR then?

In Norway, if a cav APC is marked 413, 4 is the squadron-number, 1 is the platoon and 3 is the team.

Similar solution?