Repro 15cwt GS box cover

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

I don't know if there were colour variations, but the tan tarp shown on the 15cwt in the MLU pages is original, war-dated with C-broad arrow...

Originally Posted by Stewart Loy

Gents,

Here is the pricing from the canvas supplier:

#10 Olive Drab or Tan Canvas Tarp: $600.00
External Waterproofing Applied by Hornsby Canvas: $175.00 (not required for Tan Coloured Tarp)
External Waterproofing Purchased and Applied by Customer: $120.00

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Example: Tan w/waterproof with 4 windows w/rope = 600+175+100+50=$925

Stewart

Regards the Waterproofing, is it required on the Tan canvas or not?

As far as stencilling any markings on canvas go, is it applied BEFORE the waterproofing or AFTER. And what colour was the stencilling? I expect the Tan canvas would have Black (but could also be Violet as on '37 Patt webbing), and the Olive canvas could also be Black stencilling, but might also be Yellow as noted also on webbing.

Colouring and/or stencilling on webbing used to be done here with a product called Raven Oil, but the local Office Supplies company sells inkpad refill inks in Black, Violet, Red, Green and Yellow and would be fine to use with a sponge and stencil.

[Mike K]

for what its worth.. someone local to me uncovered a stash of 1942 108 wireless set canvas covers some years ago... they are stenciled in black ..in brand new condition ..made here somewhere . The canvas is a light yellowy beige colour .

I'm presently making a new top for my series 1 landy..been looking for the heavy 20 oz duck canvas they used originally.. no luck so far ..so I'm using cheap 16 oz stuff made in Pakistan ... its 60 bucks for a 12' X 9' ..don't know how it will last though .

I've got an old original 1952 top on loan ... its not exactly like a 1950 top, but close enough ... the colour you see in the pics is deceptive as it has faded to a yellow/browny natural cotton..the original 1952 colour is found inside the folded seams .. a rich emerald grass green colour ... the difference is remarkable
Mike

[Stewart Loy]

Gents,

Boob is correct - the waterprooferizing is a messy business that can be done to the OD cloth. The fabric comes with a bit of waterproofing on the thread - so it is 'water resistant'. If it is to be used extensivly out of doors it should be waterproof sprayed. The canvasmith does it just like you and I would - with a pump sprayer. It is a bit smelly, and she pays her foplks to do it, so the price is labour and materials. The tan cloth got that done at the factory, and needs no more.

I have not even thought of stencils - but they should be done prior to waterproofing. If it were me: I would get the tarp without the waterproof treatment, paint stencils, THEN spray the canvas with a commercial ( or homemade ) spray to waterproof. I googled a concoction of soya oil and turpentine that sounds like it would be waterproof and smelly! The sample tarp has black ink for the stencils.

The hold down rope is easier to find that the canvas lady says - check the internet. I may make some of the clips Mike and Grant have worked on.

The canvas shop is down for 2 weeks at Xmas, so production will likely wait for straps and clips and get underway in late January 2009.

Send PMs and get on the list.


Stewart

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Stewart ..
How is the water proofing holding up on the tarp I gave you a few years ago..??
If it is still ok,I will share my method with you...for a pint of Ripple..

[Stewart Loy]

Alex,

That canvas sheet you gave me is still very waterproof - I use it to keep the T-16 drivers compartment dry when rainy parades send the convertible top gang running for cover. I am not scared to get my hair wet, but driving with wet pants gives me 'the creeps', as it were ...

That fabric is a bit thinner than this tarp stuff, but the same fluid would probably work as well.

The soya bean oil and turpentine spray on as suggestd on the WWW is a thing best done out of doors and off the truck. I suspect that the person doing the spraying would also become waterproof, and smell like a cheap Chinese buffet on a hot day!


Stewart

[guyvapeur]

Some time ago, I had to modify a tent for a buddy. I was concerned that the new canvas I used would shrink once sewn in and distort the lines of the tent.

I bought the 10 new yards of canvas and put it out on the outside clothes line. I left it there for a few rainy/sunny days. On removing the canvas , the shrinkage was noticeable but years later, the new pieces were still in line with the older canvas.... Pre-shrunk I guess you could say.

If memory serves me well, you may get different shrink ratios on canvas.
Depending on the weave, you may have more shrinking on the length than on the width....

Good Luck with your projects.

[guyvapeur]

I have played with a variety of canvases and inks to see what works the best.

I have not yet found the perfect ink/paint combo but.........I have had good success with black boot stain. You can purchase a plastic container with the sponge top that allows you to touch up the black on leather boots or belts.

Some stores also sell leather dye...... I like this because it is thicker than ink pads and does not bleed as much on the canvas.

[Stewart Loy]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Regards the Waterproofing, is it required on the Tan canvas or not?

Tony,

The tan material comes with the super waterproofing, and does NOT need anymore. That colour tarp is by far the bestest deal out there! 1 has been ordered thus far.


Stewart

[john hoffman]

Greeting. I am interested in a tan C15 cover, Stewart. Just PMed you Sir.

Cheers, Johnnie.