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Old 06-06-17, 13:06
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Mike,

This might be bad advice but I'll throw it out there...

There are pistons perhaps that arent Morris but may still be what you need.

A chap from Wagga recently restored a 1912 Daimler Bus and discovered a Fiat
tractor piston was exactly the same and used them in his engine rebuild.

Another local resto on a Matchless motorcycle used Bedford pistons.

Thinking outside the box? May save some bucks
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Old 06-06-17, 14:18
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Mike,

This might be bad advice but I'll throw it out there...

There are pistons perhaps that arent Morris but may still be what you need.

A chap from Wagga recently restored a 1912 Daimler Bus and discovered a Fiat
tractor piston was exactly the same and used them in his engine rebuild.

Another local resto on a Matchless motorcycle used Bedford pistons.

Thinking outside the box? May save some bucks
Yes that's true and its been done more than once. I did a basic search some time ago and I think it was Norton or a similar motorbike pistons that are the same bore size . Also some Mercedes cars of the 1960's.

The sleeving is a possible option but I am a cheapskate ! I have a few of these engines , all except one are still fitted in wrecks . It's a hell of a job removing these engines at the best of times , and doing stuff like that in Winter - forget it I'd end up in hospital with pneumonia for sure...been there and done that already, don't want to go back there.
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Old 07-06-17, 10:24
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The sun was out today, I had a spurt of energy and dragged out the spare engine.

This is a pre-war civilian engine from a 1937-39 Morris truck . The pistons are dome shaped and the head is a different shape , plus the water jacket side is completely open . Other than that its identical to the CS8 engine. On the good side, its in very good shape, nil wear in the bores. This block is a good candidate for a bore out to +20.

After Morris aquired Wolesely ,the acronym MOWOG appeared , cast on many parts. It means "Morris Wolesley group" Ive been informed. This was before political correctness was heard of !

I took a pic of the oil pump dissy drive at No. 1 TDC
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The green civilian engine has been pulled down. The crank and its bearings are in excellent condition and can be reused after a clean up.

I have the block soaking in a drum of molasses. The block will be taken to Bunyip to be bored and decked . The head studs came out easily thank god . Valve guides were drilled , then a drift made and a few mild blows and they came out .

interesting pic of a Morris https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C356131?search
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Seems like Morris 6 engines were being salvaged .

This scene was at TOLGA ? Is that in QLD ? A PU8 Morris wreck, with four chaps doing something, I don't know what .
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Old 19-06-17, 07:56
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I have new Morris 6 valves , got them from Cox & Turner years ago .

As an experiment, I had a go at refacing the worn and pitted exhaust valves that were taken out of the original CS8 motor. I used a 4 jaw chuck and a HSS tool in a lathe. A few very light cuts and a polish with emery cloth . These are not hard stellite valves that would normally need a grinder.

The refaced valves are good enough to use again but I will be using the new valves because they have more " meat" on them.
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The Morris engine block is back from the engine machinist . The cost of the boring job really surprised me, these engine places charge like a wounded bull. I had the block and head re-surfaced and the block dipped in a bath to clean it out. I should have got a quote but would that have made any difference ? It seemed like a rippoff to me and I'd like to know what others have been charged .

Does anybody know what the average cost of a rebore and hone is these days ? per cylinder ?
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