Ford Blitz Restoration/Rebuild

[Private_collector]

G' Day Jacques,

You are 100% correct. That is the right part, according to my manual.

If you don't mind, I will save a copy of that photo you posted. Clearest photo I have seen so far.

Here's a question you may also be able to answer. Are Ford CMP transmission parts interchangable with civvy stuff of the same year. I need main shaft bearings, gaskets, throw-out bearing and clutch shaft bushes.

I disassembled the gearbox/trans this afternoon. All of the gears, shafts, and roller bearings are really good. The case got treated to a lengthy scrub and degrease. Then went over the whole thing with the twisted wire cup. Even the inspection plate and screws were good enough to use. Despite 70+ years of life, the machined parts still had near razor sharp edges on some of em. Guess how I found out? Made that discovery a number of times acutally, but did get everything real clean and ready for reassembly.

One thing I have NEVER seen for sale is the grease lubricating hose that goes to the throwout bearing. I may have to get one made, if that is even possible. I have the remains of a couple of em, but they ard strictly pattern material only.

If the gearbox case is good enough, I may get it painted tomorrow. If i'm unsure, i'll mask it off, for blasting through the week.

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,

Yes, anyone is welcome to save any photo I post on MLU. All part of disseminating information to keep these vehicles alive.
The bracket sure looks like the real deal according to the parts manual, but with CMP's I've learned never to assume anything is original after 70 years of various owners!

FYI: the bend where it becomes vertical to the tailpipe is 2 7/8" from the other bend where it attaches to the chassis rail. This puts it right against the inside edge of the frame rail at that point. That, at least, locates the tailpipe end of the muffler.

Transmissions: Again 99% certain they are the same as 4 speed civilian trucks of that era. Unfortunately they are not the same as the slightly later synchronized truck gearboxes despite similar appearances. I had researched that possibility a while back but the gear case is too long unless someone wants to butcher the rear transmission cross-member to make it fit. Sorry I even suggested it!

The throwout bearing lube hose: I am sure I have seen them somewhere for sale. Will have a good look around and see if I can locate where they were and let you know. Interesting construction they are. Almost like a bathtub plug chain in the middle with a rubber coating. Strange!!!

Cheers,

[Private_collector]

Cheers Mate,

I have to remove the lubing hose from another gearbox this morning, so i'll check that out. Certainly is a strange manufacture.

I have sent an email to MIBearings in US. They are the ones I ordered the rear gearbox mount seal from. They have both the BB7025 & BB7065 bearings that I am wanting for the main shaft. If first searches are anything to go by, they seem to have a large range of bearings & seals for vintage applications.

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,

Just remembered where I saw them!

Ajay's Ford Parts in NZ.

Part B 7557 B is on page 50 of their downloadable online catalogue. $18.00 NZ.

It is listed for earlier vehicles but worth a call/email to see if it is the same as used in WW2 CMP's.

I bought a few things from them many years ago when they were located in Auckland and found them to be very good.

Cheers,

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Private_collector

Here's a question you may also be able to answer. Are Ford CMP transmission parts interchangable with civvy stuff of the same year. I need main shaft bearings, gaskets, throw-out bearing and clutch shaft bushes.

I have sent an email to MIBearings in US. They have both the BB7025 & BB7065 bearings that I am wanting for the main shaft.

Those bearings are probably available right here in town! P/No BB7025 is a 6209 bearing while BB7065 is a 6307. Take your old bearings in to a bearing supply place so they can match the particular features of seal and circlip groove location. The bearings I used were 6209LLUC and 6307ZU1, but I think I then had to pry a rubber seal out of one side(??).

Throw out bearing is BCA 2065 (again, should be available locally or from various sources online), while the clutch shaft bushes should be available generically but I don't hve a part number. I bought mine from this seller on e-bay. (Hint: Check out his other items too!)

[Private_collector]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

I bought mine from this seller on e-bay. (Hint: Check out his other items too!)

G'Day Tony!

I shop with Century as well. They were my choice for some of the little bits, including the clutch shaft bushes. I will also order some of the lock-wire. I went to EVERY auto shop and mechanical supplies in Gympie on Saturday, and NO ONE has this wire. REPCO & Autobarn staff didn't even know what it was. Goes to show that shop is only as good as the person you talk to on the day.

ADDED 20:40hrs
I have now ordered those bushes, and quite a few other small bits too. I also asked if their 7025 & 7065 bearings will suit the 4 speed box. I have been caught out before with correct part nos. that were a different size. Even where the prefixes were same!

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Those bearings are probably available right here in town! P/No BB7025 is a 6209 bearing while BB7065 is a 6307. Take your old bearings in to a bearing supply place so they can match the particular features of seal and circlip groove location. The bearings I used were 6209LLUC and 6307ZU1, but I think I then had to pry a rubber seal out of one side(??).

Throw out bearing is BCA 2065 (again, should be available locally or from various sources online), while the clutch shaft bushes should be available generically but I don't hve a part number. I bought mine from this seller on e-bay.

Well done! Do those bearings have the retaining groove and clip around the outside?

Seeing as you've now got such a good relationship with your local bearing shop, when the clutch release shaft bushes arrive from Century, before you fit them, take them into the bearing shop and see if they can assign a current part number for them. I realise US$10pr is pretty fairly priced, but you never know if it can be beat. Having a brand and number would be a good start. I had a set many years ago that I think were either Federal Mogul or TRW, but I've long forgotten the number.

[Private_collector]

Tony,

Will do with the bushes.

The MDG bearings don't have a groove for a clip. The originals didn't either.