Humber Pig Mk1

[da bomb]

Originally Posted by waltz

found this piece of paper with some markings on may help to identify

Waltz, this is what i think it all means:


The shield with the eye in it denotes 4th Guards Infantry Brigade and probably was based at its HQ, Hubbelrath, British Army On the Rhine (BAOR)
Not too sure where that would of been painted, possibly on the nose and the rear.

The circular mark on the door would appear to denote 3rd sub unit, or "C" Troop.

The squares on the back, possibly 17= Field sqn Royal Engineers against a blue background, the 169= Corps Engr Regt.

The quadrant in a circle marking on the bottom left of the door looks like a 4th Division marking.

I dont know what state the paint was in on the pig when you got it, but it looks as if a previous owner has recorded what was found on it, you have two totally different users, The Brigade of Guards, and the Royal Engineers.

The link below is for BAOR locations, pointing towards the Guards HQ, its a great website with loads of info, it takes a bit of working around to find what you are after, but is very useful.



http://baor-locations.com/LlanellyBarracks.aspx

[Jason Ginn]

On the Canadian Guards Regimental Association site they have four images showing Pigs being used by Canadians on Cyprus. It seems that were using them as convoy escorts.

http://www.canadianguards.ca/Album3.htm

http://www.canadianguards.ca/dcalbum.htm

http://www.canadianguards.ca/ALBUMRH.htm

J

[malcolm erik bogaert]

looking at the picture of your pig Im pretty sure it once was mine..Im think I may have swaped it to Doug matheson in Scotland for an Albion CX...cheers malcolm PS or it could have been my other one!

[da bomb]

Originally Posted by malcolm erik bogaert

looking at the picture of your pig Im pretty sure it once was mine..Im think I may have swaped it to Doug matheson in Scotland for an Albion CX...cheers malcolm PS or it could have been my other one!

You did own it at some point according to the log book!

You will be glad to know it is still going and in use, although i am having some brake servo issues with it at the moment, the brakes sometimes like to stay locked on, turning it into a 5 ton roadblock!
Most of the other issues with its engine have been resolved and it now runs reliably.

Heres a picture of it earlier this year at a show near Aberdeen:-

[malcolm erik bogaert]

was the engine running when you got it...as I did have another with no engine,so i bought a scrap Humber 1 ton g/s in Yorkshire and refitted the engine into the Pig(big job on your own with only a borrowed small forklift) cheers malcolm

[S LATHERON (RIP)]

Check master cylinder push rod is not to LONG, not letting the fluid return to the reservoir once brake pedal is released, Dont know exact free play but it seems to happen on Land rover systems and CMP trucks alike.
Has the brake pedal lever got a pull off spring to return it to rest quickly, try stronger spring if it is a bit weak.
Also has the master cylinder cap got a breather?

[da bomb]

Originally Posted by malcolm erik bogaert

was the engine running when you got it...as I did have another with no engine,so i bought a scrap Humber 1 ton g/s in Yorkshire and refitted the engine into the Pig(big job on your own with only a borrowed small forklift) cheers malcolm

The engine was a runner, but once warmed up it would start to misfire badly. After checking every single option in the ignition system, points, plugs, condensor and coil, i pulled the shielded ignition leads apart, two of the copper cored leads, where they push onto the brass spikes in the distributor cap had "blown" apart leaving a 1/4" gap to jump which it was doing until it warmed up! i replaced all of the leads with modern copper core lead.

There was quite a few widget bits missing from the cable shielding, fortunately i have a good few spares from a 1 ton truck, which went into it.

I have now narrowed the brake problem down, it is the brake servo, its not backing off and seems to stick in place, if the vacuum pipe which provides the assistance is removed, the brakes never lock up, but then you barely have any braking at all!

I now have a couple of servos and some seals so i can rebuild a good one ready for the next season.

Malcolm, did the pig only ever have one fuel tank, just there is no hole on the passenger side for a fuel filler, long since replaced with a new piece of chequer plate?

Forgot to ask, what happened to the Albion CX22, i remember seeing it advertised years ago up here, it looked quite original.

[malcolm erik bogaert]

yes it only ever had one fuel tank...i remember that I got it from a chap in the Brighton area....might get myself another one sometime in the future!Albion went to a collector in Scotland who had the means and werwith all to restore it back to its former glory....it was a grand starter you just had to look at it and it was away...says a lot for those old Albion made engines....bloody thing had no brakes....best regards malcolm

[FV1611A]

Originally Posted by da bomb

Waltz, this is what i think it all means:


The shield with the eye in it denotes 4th Guards Infantry Brigade and probably was based at its HQ, Hubbelrath, British Army On the Rhine (BAOR)
Not too sure where that would of been painted, possibly on the nose and the rear.

The circular mark on the door would appear to denote 3rd sub unit, or "C" Troop.

The squares on the back, possibly 17= Field sqn Royal Engineers against a blue background, the 169= Corps Engr Regt.

The quadrant in a circle marking on the bottom left of the door looks like a 4th Division marking.

I dont know what state the paint was in on the pig when you got it, but it looks as if a previous owner has recorded what was found on it, you have two totally different users, The Brigade of Guards, and the Royal Engineers.

The link below is for BAOR locations, pointing towards the Guards HQ, its a great website with loads of info, it takes a bit of working around to find what you are after, but is very useful.



http://baor-locations.com/LlanellyBarracks.aspx

A little like these markings one might say!

[FV1611A]

There is the remnance of a logo of sorts on my Pig MK I that I do not know of.

Does anyone have any ideas as it has drawn a blank on the UK Forums.

I think I can make out a part of a crown or thistle???????

Cheers