Humber Pig Mk1

[waltz]

drove her out for a quick wash

she may have 4 wings now
but she still cant fly

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Bugger, always wanted to see a flying Pig. Still a bit more of the pink paint and it will be getting close!
It really was quite a design change was'nt it, the FV1600 had more curves than the Michelin Man, the pig looks like a broken brick.
Lookin good.
Rich.

[da bomb]

Waltz, do you have any pictures of the back wing boxes, my particular pig FV1611b (with winch) has bodged later N.I. style arches, rather than the full box version, which i would like to change, along with adding lockers to the front wings....

[doug]

this might be of interest to somebody, up for auction at Withams Vehicles.

http://www.witham-sv.com/Lot-picture/lot446.jpg

[da bomb]

Picture of the beasty out for a wallow...

Another with my mate and his strong but tatty Scammell Explorer!

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

I think the Pig has just been upstaged!! Always nice to see one in use, but how about some more photos of the Scammell, thats one impressive beast.
Rich

[da bomb]

Another one with the Pig dangling from the back.........because we could.

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Who said Pigs are expensive to run??? That would be infinity miles to the Gallon?
That Scammel.... I think I've fallen in love....
Rich

[gjamo]

Dont look now but I think the Pig's in love with the Scammel too.

[Neil Ashley]

Does anyone know of a Mk1 for sale at the moment?

The prospective buyer would be happy with NI modifications but not up-armouring.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by gjamo
Dont look now but I think the Pig's in love with the Scammel too.

Uh-oh.... does the Scammell have a say, or are Richard and the Pig going to have to settle it between them? Is anyone giving odds here?

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

The Pig has been tied down....need I say more
Rich

[da bomb]

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
Does anyone know of a Mk1 for sale at the moment?

The prospective buyer would be happy with NI modifications but not up-armouring.

There are a couple of MK1's on the Scottish Military Vehicle Group:-

http://www.scottishmvg.org/11.html

Certainly there are alot less MK1's about, and the MK2 N.I. spec would take a huge amount of work to put back to MK1, they done alot of work to them.

[waltz]

hi guys
i need to register my pig but chassis plate is missing from n/s/f chassis where else would the number be any ideas?
she's on the road now[on trade plates] i'll gets some pics up over the weekend

[da bomb]

There is usually another data plate under the passenger side window on the bulkhead, held on with 6 rivets although mine has gone walkabouts at some point.
I cant think of anywhere else it appears apart from the plates, do you still have the engine/number? i believe clive may have a list somewhere that might relate engine to chassis, although if it has been changed it isnt going to help. Did your old engine have a service record roll in the screw top tube thats bolted to the thermostat housing, that may provide a lead if it is still present.

[waltz]

the plate on engine is missing as well you can see where it was.
i found service tube in box of bits
if you cant read the numbers they are b80 5h 14860 cl.1833 3
if anyone can help?

[waltz]

well here she is sat outside workshop

[waltz]

found this piece of paper with some markings on may help to identify

[alain taou]

Hello. I seek pics details on the bond of metallic grilling protection .
Tank you for answers

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by waltz

well here she is sat outside workshop

Looking at your pics, y'know what that is? It's nothing more than a revised/updated C15TA... sumbitch, it never occurred to me before!!

[da bomb]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

Looking at your pics, y'know what that is? It's nothing more than a revised/updated C15TA... sumbitch, it never occurred to me before!!

Funny you should say that, i was comparing my Mk1 Pig with a C15TA that had been converted to a timber tractor, armoured cab with a crane on the rear.
When you see pictures of them together when new they are very similar, and the prototype Pig had a stepped rear wing box, which looks identical to the C15's.

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Can anyone explain why the Pig (weighing in at 2 ton + over the original Humber truck) had a slightly higher road speed, with almost the same fuel consumption??? Or is this just another miracle of Pommy engineering. Even allowing for increased tyre size and ratio changes this seems unusual, especially considering that the Piggy had a rated climb angle of 45dg, compared to 33dg??
Wonder what would happen if this set up was used on the original GS truck....
Figures taken from Pat Wares "In National Service"
Also found out that there really was a "Flying Pig" version....live and learn.
Do the Dinky versions come with thir own little oil leaks? How cute would that be?
Rich

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Sorry, forgot where I was,last line was in reference to ryans thread over in the Humber section
Rich

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by da bomb

Paint etc apparently is original, (Cyprus?)

Here´s a picture of a Pig on Cyprus captioned "Canadian UN troops, probably in Turkish-Cypriot Village, 1964" (source: Life Magazine @ Google).

Canadian UN troops, yes, you read it right! On Cyprus some pigs were also used by Danish and Canadian troops under the auspices of NATO.

I understand they were painted a sand colour (Light Stone?)

HTH,
Hanno

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Canadian UN troops, yes, you read it right! On Cyprus some pigs were also used by Danish and Canadian troops under the auspices of NATO.

Hanno..
You can tell by the picture that the Aussies are there too..
See them haggling with the guy over the price of the "Girls" services...??
True Aussies..

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Canadian UN troops, yes, you read it right! On Cyprus some pigs were also used by Danish and Canadian troops under the auspices of NATO.

Hanno,

I wonder if the photo caption was correct........there is the British Union flag draped over the engine covers might they actually be a British Army crew?

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

See them haggling with the guy over the price of the "Girls" services...??

Hey Alex - I think you are mistaking Aussies for Kiwis.

Bob

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

I wonder if the photo caption was correct........there is the British Union flag draped over the engine covers might they actually be a British Army crew?

Richard,

That is what I thought too, until I learned from Clive Elliott (also on this forum) over on HMVF the Danish and Canadian contingents used Humber Pigs during their UN tours on Cyprus, too.

The Life Magazine picture is part of a series of four pictures showing Canadian UN troops in Cyprus in 1964. However, this does not mean the caption is 100% correct. I think the presence of a British Union flag on the vehicle makes it highly unlikely the depicted troops are Canadian. Unless they were working in joint units?

Hanno

[da bomb]

Originally Posted by waltz

found this piece of paper with some markings on may help to identify

Waltz, this is what i think it all means:


The shield with the eye in it denotes 4th Guards Infantry Brigade and probably was based at its HQ, Hubbelrath, British Army On the Rhine (BAOR)
Not too sure where that would of been painted, possibly on the nose and the rear.

The circular mark on the door would appear to denote 3rd sub unit, or "C" Troop.

The squares on the back, possibly 17= Field sqn Royal Engineers against a blue background, the 169= Corps Engr Regt.

The quadrant in a circle marking on the bottom left of the door looks like a 4th Division marking.

I dont know what state the paint was in on the pig when you got it, but it looks as if a previous owner has recorded what was found on it, you have two totally different users, The Brigade of Guards, and the Royal Engineers.

The link below is for BAOR locations, pointing towards the Guards HQ, its a great website with loads of info, it takes a bit of working around to find what you are after, but is very useful.



http://baor-locations.com/LlanellyBarracks.aspx

[Jason Ginn]

On the Canadian Guards Regimental Association site they have four images showing Pigs being used by Canadians on Cyprus. It seems that were using them as convoy escorts.

http://www.canadianguards.ca/Album3.htm

http://www.canadianguards.ca/dcalbum.htm

http://www.canadianguards.ca/ALBUMRH.htm

J