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UCarrier Mk1 tail lamp
Hi everyone.
On the back of the UCarrier Mk1 there is a tail lamp mounted on the top of the P.O.L. bracket. See the attached picture to what Im talking about. Would this light, part # CO1UC 13407a/b be the same as the front/ rear convoy lights on a CMP truck? In the picture from the Carrier parts manual they sure look the same. Also would it have a red lense in it?
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Canadian versus English
Jordan, The early English carriers had a black rubber bodied light. Is that picture Definitely a Mk1?
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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The picture/drawing came out of the "Carrier Universal MkI* and MkII*, Illustrated Parts Catalogue"
It was from the drawing on pg 2 of the catalogue. The title of the drawing is "Rear Side View" "CO1UC - with desert equipment"
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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The light is not the same, although pretty darn close. The CMP lights have just one cloth wire lead out of them, whereas the origional carrier lamp has the braided wiring which goes up to a socket on the lamp housing. The carrier lamp socket is a smaller diameter. I think you will find you have to enlarge the hole slightly to get a CMP lamp into it. And the early ones did use the rubber lamps, although with the scarcity of rubber later in the war, many rubber parts were changed over in production to either canvas,wood or metal, such as the rear step pads, the firing rests, the straps, and the lamp.
As you can see in the carrier part manual, the lamp body is a CMP part (with part numbers like C01Q... and C29Q....), and the socket, plug and cap are carrier specific numbers (C01UC....) I'm going from memory about 10 years back. I still have the remains of an origional lamp somewhere in my collection of bits, but in the end, I think most of the guys use the metal lamp. I had the rubber lamp on my first carrier for a while, but within a year the NOS rubber disentegrated, and I went to the metal. |
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Max has a few of these rubber bodied early tailights, some with a red light covered with a Khaki pinhole cover, some with red lenses, and some with clear lenses:
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And the mounting thread on the back is smaller than the Cab 13 style lights.
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Thanks for the pictures Tony.
I just got one of these lamps a few weeks ago and I should have posted some photos.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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REpo parts
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I think Jeff Caldwell may have some of these lights for sale.. http://www.bmts.com/~caldwell/CC%20S...s/page0006.htm
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CMP convoy lights
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Yes, I am back home (LwD shop is open again). Mvg. Dirk |
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Ive been working on and off over the last few months towards molding my own repro rubber lamp covers.
The one on the left is the original and the one on the right is my new made copy. The rubber is a 2 part uretane that will supposedly stand up to the elements far better then the origianls. I still have some issuses with minor surface air bubbles but I should have this sorted out soon.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Repro rubber lights
That's impressive Jordan I'd like to see the finished product
Pete |
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Would that be a Devcon product? I am shortly to have a go at moulding some parts, not lamps, which will be open to the weather. The mould is made, just have to finish it off and polish. Any tips are welcome, you can PM me if you do not wish to give away trade secrets Richard |
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