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30-06-05, 18:38
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Ex-Canadian Military CJ's
Who is the resident expert on the Jeep CJ's that I was lucky enough to drive in the 80's before the advet of the Iltus?
I am looking to buy one and wonder how hard they are to find, specs etc. Any info would be much appreciated! Thanks Jason
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01-07-05, 03:46
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I have the proper quantities purchased somewhere, but for now I'll go by memory. The initial batch (1983) were bought primarily for the militia armoured corps as a temporary replacement for the well aged M38A1 fleet. It had got to the point where it was difficult to get spare parts, and the units were lucky to be able to get 1/2 of the vehicles to the field; they would be either VORd already, or break down on the way. I believe the 1983 purchase quantity was in the neighbourhood of 300 or so. They were essentially bare bones, off the shelf, CJ7s with 6 cyl engine, manual steering, 205/75R15 tires, and the notoriously poor T-4 transmission. It had low back seats, and green vinyl softop. It was adapted for the 24Volt 524 radio sets with the inclusion of a 12-24 volt converter under the drivers seat. I think they had some footman loops under the hood which were meant to hold a shovel, but I can't recall this for sure. They also had the bumperettes and tow rings on the rear. Most of the Wpg ones showed up without the tow rings and bumperettes and they were sent to us a month after receipt along with a couple of specially bent snap on wrenches to install them. I still have my wrench. They also had the wire cutters installed on the front bumpers.
There was a second major purchase in 1985, ( I think 200, but again can't be sure. If someone has the data summaries, it will give the quantities purchased) which had some minor improvements like the high back buckets, and the heavier T176 (or a similar medium duty ) transmission. It looked like there was an attemp to mount a Jerry can bracket on the left side just in front of the driver, as the bolts were on all the vehicles, but I never saw one with the bracket there, so maybe someone thought better of sticking a gas can out the traffic side of the vehicle. Upon the introduction of the Iltis fleet in 1987, the militia requested that the CJ7s be retained as extra vehicles, and the majority of them were kept by the militia, with some going to training bases war stocks, with a one time repair expenditure limit (REL) of $500, so it wasn't too hard to get them PCC'd when the mood struck. Compared to the M38A1Cdn2 and Cdn3 fleet, along with the M151A2 fleet, the CJ7s were generally a godsend, although they did not get the traditional GPMG on the side. The CJ7s were never really sold off en-masse, but rather trickled out of the system over the years as they reached that $500 limit. It is getting hard to see any CJ jeep around any more as the bodies are somewhat prone to cancer (rust) although the militia CJ7s generaly were fairly solid and low mileage when they left the service.
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04-07-05, 05:07
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Do you have any info on the 87 YJ's that were in service?...I have one of these with the 24 volt converter under the seat and a 524 tray and 6707 AMU.....Its pretty low mileage and in good shape but I can't find much info on them......have seen a few others around but don't remember them on bases i the late 80's.
cheers,Mike.
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21-09-05, 20:15
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Rob, Thanks very much for the info!
I am not having much luck finding one however. Any info on where a guy could find one would be appreciated. Sorry for the late reply.
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02-10-05, 15:51
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Several '83s were disposed of in the early 90's at the Crown Assets yard in Richmond , B.C. They were in rough shape, having been abused by the B.C.D.'s , if memory serves me right. I bid on two of them, but some nut bid $1800.00 on one of them and $2300.00 on the other! Madness! They were in rough condition, engine not running, body damaged and springs were sagging. Most of the military equipment was removed. One of the jeeps had the antenna base and the rack for a radio. There was an unsubstantiated rumour travelling around the collectors circles in B.C. then that the mechanics at the vehicle maintenance depot in C.F.B. Chilliwack were in cahoots with an un-named collector. The mechanics would rebuild or replace the running gear of a vehicle so that it ran perfectly, then remove the carb or distributor or some other small part so the the vehicle wouldn't run. The vehicle when subsequently sold was listed as non-running. People not in the know would assume the worst about the vehicle and bid very low. A certain, un-named collector would almost always bid a little higher and get a great running vehicle for very little. The 5/4 ton I bought from a certain, un-named collector had a freshly rebuilt transfer case and an obviously very low mileage engine. I didn't complain. You might try contacting some of the members of Western Command Military Vehicle Historical Society in B.C. about locating a Jeep. I'd contact Ian MacArthur, Colin Stevens, or Ian Newby to start. Hope this helps. 
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26-10-05, 00:05
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26-10-05, 00:38
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Hi Derek, mine is a 1970. It is Palmamino Copper with Black vinyl roof and a Saddle interior. I have owned it since 1988 and I think it is time to switch toys.
Jason
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26-10-05, 02:11
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