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Wow, Mercurys! There was one found in WHEELS & TRACKS with a rhd engine that suggests it was Nritish-assembled.
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Another for the Empire thread, a Humber Super Snipe complete with bedding. Would this have been standard issue with these cars, i,m not sure if this photo was taken to illustrate the car or the engine cover
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Details from 1942 Dagenham assembly leaflet:

C11AD 5-PASSENGER STATION WAGON SW424-C-5WAG 9.00 x 13 WOOD, SEDAN TYPE WITH HEAVIER AXLES THAN C11AS AND LUGGAGE SPACE 114 IN. WHEELBASE
C11AS 7-PASSENGER STATION WAGON WITH ROOF RACK SW424-C-7WAG-1 6.00 x 16 WOOD, SEDAN TYPE 114 IN. WHEELBASE
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Found two more, the first is from the A10 Infantry Training Centre

and the second car is from the A19 Royal Canadian Army Service Corps Training Centre.
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The top one is a 1940 Model Chevrolet sedan...1019? Now, is it rhd? I am trying to work out if that's a right-hand steering wheel. If it is then that is an ultra-rare photo. The only ones I have of genuine Army cars are those in the bombed-out Southampton Plant. Even if it's lhd it is a rare photo and I would be very keen please to obtain a hi-res copy!
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The top one is a 1940 Model Chevrolet sedan...1019? Now, is it rhd I was askign myself with considerable expectation? I was trying to work out if that's a right-hand steering wheel. If it is then that is an ultra-rare photo. However, I cannot imagine it is , as it is clearly a Canadian domestic shot and the car has a domestic Census Number.

The only ones I have of genuine rhd Army cars are those in the bombed-out Southampton Plant. Even if it's lhd it is a rare photo and I would be very keen please to obtain a hi-res copy!
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Whilst the fire is still alight under this one here are a few more snap shots all taken in the far east, over to you Bill to identfy the first two
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2nd
on the bumper it reads
HQ 16
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80ECP any ideas as to the identification
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Austin 8hp heads up a convoy of CMPs
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ON the back it reads CO and car at Gwalior 7 Oct 1945 going ahead of column to recce, lets hope it was for a camp and not to find the enemy
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Hi Les:
Of the last few, the large sedan seems to be a Buick of 1941 vintage and the smaller sedan is, I think, a 1941 Chevrolet.
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"2nd" is I think a Chevrolet sedan, 1941 MODEL
MASTER DELUXE SEDAN AG 1503 and it is definitely not a Holden-bodied car with its 'suicide' rear-hinging doors. US-built? Possibly delivered under Demand S/M 2221 which was an 'overseas' delivery....to ?? Australia?? or Mid-East thence to Far East??

The first two are indeed a 1941 Buick, and I believe another '41 Chevrolet as before. However note that the Buick is rhd! It could well be a US-sourced one from Flint. We know that Australia received 1940-42 rhd Buicks sourced from the States. A very interesting and puzzling shot!
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Old 09-08-06, 00:05
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Hi Clive:
Regarding your lot of photos starting 02 August.

41 Chev AK
41 Ford Wagons X 4
40 Ford Sedan
40 IH D2 I think
40 ford
40 Mercury
41 Ford X 2
40 Ford deluxe
40 Ford standard
41 Ford Wagon
42 Ford Sedan
40 Ford wagon
41 Ford Wagon
42 Ford Wagon
40 Ford Wagon Standard
40 Ford Wagon Deluxe
40 Ford Wagon Standard
40 Chev
36 Ford
41 Ford X 2
40 Ford Deluxe
40 Ford Standard

A most interesting selection of photos, showing different type of wheel & tyre selections and also RHD and LHD vehicles.
What is the source of these beauties??

As to the books, not to worry, they will find a home eventually.

Hope you may have more to add.
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What is the source of these beauties??
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Thanks for the idents. I was starting to feel that everybody was ignoring these.

The airbrushed images come from a 1940 or 1941 book produced by Ford which shows the vehicles that they had produced for the war effort. There are many more which I shall share eventually. Original held by Cdn War Museum.
The un-retouched photos are from the series of photos taken overseas by CMHQ, on behalf of the Quarter-Master General. These are the same photos used by Bill Gregg, however, I am in the process of getting coies of ALL of the vehicles photographed and not just those used by Dr. Gregg. The pair of ambulance photos are flotsom kicking around my PC and I had nowhere else to show them off. The two photos of cars in use in Canada are from a series of photos taken in the Ottawa area of vehicles in use in the Canadian Army, circa 1942. remainder are the result of individual photos that I have come across in my ongoing research. All photos not attributed to the CWM were located at Library & Archives Canada. There are also dozens of photos of RCAF vehicle photos that I have seen but have not had a chance to copy. Unfortunately, these are not grouped like the Army photos are. This means more time in getting the negatives ordered.
We all benefit from a new policy at LAC which now allows researchers to take digital photos of items no longer under copyright. This applies to all WWII official Cdn Army photos.
Too little time...
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Clive thank you for sharing these photos. I for one (like Bill) find them very interesting and appreciate you sharing them with us.

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Me too (for two, or is that three).
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Hi Clive & Cliff:

I may have missed some or most of those photos and I do realize that some appeared in Bill's books as perhaps Bart's as well but not in such a nice clear format.

Sharing is good, and if it is legal and does not cost you personally, I know all here are most appreciative.

Due to time constraints, I am not doing a lot of PM stuff just now so let me thank you, Cliff, for the latest batch which was most valuable. Let me know how I can help you with further stuff if you are up to it.

Finally, for this post, I was in a hurry and may have not completely identified some of Clive's photos so anyone with a different slant needs to chime in.
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Two from World War One. The first looks earily as though the passengers are German.

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Found this pic in a collection I bought recently, a nice little RAF Austin ...



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This is not really a staff car of the Empire but thought it would fit in here, what can you guys tell me about this U.S.M.C woodie. Just a thought i suppose we could start a thread dedicated to U.S marine corps vehicles
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Reverse lease lend at auction, a Humber saloon, not to sure about the next two is the light car a Rover or something of a captured nature. Bill what is that big Yank job behind the Humber
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Morning Gents:
It is 0400 here as I am on one of my blood pressure pill induced pee breaks and doing a bit of surfing.
The woodie wagon is an International and the yank behind the Humber is a Hudson.
I will come back later with more details.
Edit: Looks like the Inter is a 1940 or 1941 model. The Hudson is most likely 1938 and the car next to the Humber looks to me like a Lanchester 8.
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G,Day all

I remember taking a number of passes at these two photos of a Morris factory adaption of the pre war Morris 8cwt PU, to my knowledge it never reached any production run
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and the second, a real challenge here for scale modellers
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Here is another oddball from the 1930s a Morris Wasp powered by a 8hp engine and featured for wheel drive,is it me or would you say it looks rather unstable
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I wonder if Les's MCC car is the one mentioned in the 1936 WD Trials Report possibly later M 3917446? Two WD MCC vehicles were trialled from 1935, one a Normal Control intended for use as a 8-cwt "van" i.e pick-up and the other a Forward Control machine intended for employment as a scout car. The majority of components were interchangeable with the CS8 T Series III Truck (15-cwt). The trials of the chassis with NC was discintinued but the FC was tried but the experiment abandoned owing to change in requirements surrounding the type of vehicle. It was then tested with a passenger carrying body as a staff car but found unsuitable and was going to be adopted as a van for carrying wireless equipment.
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