Under New Management

[Jan Mostek]

I am almost sure I have seen the above picture of GIs in GAZ with comments that the picture was taken in Korea which would be more likely.

Jan Mostek

[Noel Burgess]

From "PhotosNormandie" here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosnormandie/426572487/
this is quoted as a requisitioned 1939 Fiat Topolino

Noel

[Bill Murray]

Noel:

If the photo was taken in Normandy, it is almost 100% going to be a Simca 5 or Cinq which was a license built Fiat. NSU did the same thing in Germany.

There were detail differences but not a whole lot.

Sapper:

I am with Jan. It almost cannot be Italy as no Soviet forces were fighting very near there. It could still be Europe somewhere 1945 but I also think I saw that photo in a Korean war publication.

Bill

[sapper740]

Originally Posted by Bill Murray

I am with Jan. It almost cannot be Italy as no Soviet forces were fighting very near there. It could still be Europe somewhere 1945 but I also think I saw that photo in a Korean war publication.

Bill and Jan, those were my thoughts exactly when I first saw the caption under the picture, thoughts which I echoed in my post. However, it isn't out of the realm of possibility if one considers that the Gaz could have been acquired from Yugoslavia. Tito and the anti-fascist forces were closely allied to the Soviets and were perhaps receiving aid in the form of vehicles from Russia. Italy and Yugoslavia share a border so, who knows? I agree with both of you that it is more likely a picture from Korea but haven't completely ruled out Italy. Derek.

[Steve Black]

If you look at the M-1 carbines that they are carrying, they have the bayonet lug on them and while I have never seen one from World War II they might exist, but I would say that this is Korea.

Steve

[Radek]

From my new book British Trucks in Wehrmacht Service

[Les Freathy]

What new book is this Radek i take it its a different one to the Tankograd offering can you post more details
Les

[Radek]

Originally Posted by Les Freathy

What new book is this Radek i take it its a different one to the Tankograd offering can you post more details

Hi Les, it is new book in my collection. It is from Tankograd publishing. I can´t write any book. My knowleges aren´t enought for writing and all my pictures I have took from Internet.
Sorry that I have got you in mistake.
Radek

[Alex van de Wetering]

Archives of Eindhoven: picture link
source: atlantis.rhc-eindhoven.nl

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Captured 30/cwt in North Africa, from expired Ebay auction.

[Bill Murray]

Hi Hanno:

It has taken some hours of looking, but I think I can ID your beute umbauwagen.
Here is a factory photo of a 1936 Hudson which is what I believe your car is.

Only just over 25,000 Hudsons were built in 1936, of which maybe 2-3000 were exported worldwide. A pretty rare vehicle.

So sorry, Alex, not Hanno. It is an aging thing. Great photo!!!
Bill

[Keith Brooker]

Some of the photos i have in my collection of British trucks in German use. I have about 250 Original photos of of British trucks / cars that we left for the Germans to use. I am looking for some photos of 1944 Morris C8 GS 4x4 as i can not find any during the war and just a few post war. My Morris did not come out of the Army untill 1957 so there must be some out there.

1944Morris C8 GS
1938 Humber used as a Staff car in WW2

[Keith Brooker]

A mixed lot of Ex British trucks used by a German Amb unit with there drivers, German Morris on fire and Bedford MWs in German use with a German cross on the wing.
Original Photos from my Collection.

1944 Morris C8 GS
Humber Staff Car

[Alex van de Wetering]

Originally Posted by Bill Murray

So sorry, Alex, not Hanno. It is an aging thing. Great photo!!!

Bill, indeed I thought it was a picture you would like........and also a car you would be able to ID. Thanks.

Here is another picture I just found on the website: www.theoldhometown.com - picture link
It seems to show the same Hudson.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Here is another picture I just found on the website: www.theoldhometown.com

Great link, thanks!

This picture shows a German Mercedes Benz truck which has been taken over by the Allies. It is used to bring back some of the church bells the Germans had taken away to be recycled to keep their war machine going.

[Radek]

Originally Posted by Keith Brooker

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A mixed lot of Ex British trucks used by a German Amb unit with there drivers, German Morris on fire and Bedford MWs in German use with a German cross on the wing.

1944 Morris C8 GS
Humber Staff Car

Hi Keith,
do you have any photos with Austin Lorries and cars.
http://www.hmvf.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8269.0

Thanks Radek

[Bill Murray]

Regarding Alex's link, I truly enjoyed the one on Eindhoven.

Nothing to do with military history as such, but when I was posted to Sweden with Volvo in 1974, I was the International Training Manager for their Spare Parts Division.
When Volvo purchased DAF Cars, there was the inevitable "Reduction in Force" that had to take place.

I still to this day do not know why I got the task/job, but in any case, I was assigned to travel to Eindhoven many, many times to assess their spare parts operations and to make recommendations to Volvo management as to how to integrate the Volvo/Daf operations.

In spite of my favourable assessment of their spare parts operations as to efficiency, profitability etc., which was mirrored by my counterparts on the Sales and Marketing side, I eventually was given the task of personally giving redundancy notices to quite a few Dutchmen whose carrying out of their duties was beyond reproach in my opinion.

To return to the link, it was a "Painful Pleasure" to see again so many venues in that city that I spent rather a lot of time in in the mid 1970's on a mission I did not at all enjoy.

As a side note, through the visits and contacts I made, I got a lot of original materiel about DAF military vehicles. A bit of a pity as I felt sometimes like a Trojan Horse.

Bill

[Rich Payne]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

This picture shows a German Mercedes Benz truck which has been taken over by the Allies. It is used to bring back some of the church bells the Germans had taken away to be recycled to keep their war machine going.

Hanno, have you seen the recent news about the theft of the bell from Susteren ? It was removed from it's original tower by the Germans for scrap but then not taken away but was never re-hung and has now been stolen from the square.

Koperdieven hebben vrijdagmiddag op klaarlichte dag een loodzware 14e eeuwse kerkklok gestolen in Susteren (Limburg). Dat liet het kerkbestuur van de Amelbergaparochie zaterdag weten.

De klok hing tot in de Tweede Wereldoorlog in de huidige Amelbergabasiliek. De Duitsers sloopten toen de klok uit de toren om ze om te smelten tot kanonnen, maar spaarden deze omdat die al zo oud was. Sinds 1997 stond de klok op een sokkel voor de basiliek op het Salvatorplein. De dieven laadden de klok vrijdagmiddag met een kraantje op een open vrachtwagentje...

Apologies for pasting Dutch news !

Rich

[Alex van de Wetering]

I don't know how, but I just came across another picture of the Hudson while searching for info for an upcoming trip to Bastogne!!!
picture link
source: www.battledetective.com

Regarding Alex's link, I truly enjoyed the one on Eindhoven.

Bill, the DAF history is an interesting story to read about. It certainly has some very good times and some very bad ones.

Alex

[Alex van de Wetering]

Sorry if this is getting boring, but here is another set of pictures of the Hudson. I won't post all of them. There are more to be found here: www.battledetective.com

There is a number on the windscreen....the original Dutch licence (?)

[Dave Page]

Hi Guys,
in the images of British trucks in German use, the truck having the rear brakes inspected looks like a either a Morris or a Guy, it's hard to tell. Anyone know for sure? A close-up would help.
Cheers,
Dave

[sapper740]

This picture came from the estate of an Australian veteran, there was scant info with the pic other than it was taken in Borneo. A rare picture for this thread as most show German, U.S. or Commonwealth troops enjoying each others kit. Derek.

[Keith Brooker]

Hi Dave,
If this is the photo, i have tried to enlarge it. I think the truck on the right is a Morris the one on the left CMP truck ? .
The photos are from my collection.



1944 Morris C8 GS.
1938 Humber used as a Staff car in WW2

[Keith Brooker]

This might be a better photo dave. Hard to tell has a GS body and a canvas roof over the cab..


Morris C8 GS.
1938 Humber used as a Staff car in WW2

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Picture of captured 60-cwt in North Africa, recently sold on Ebay:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Rich Payne

Hanno, have you seen the recent news about the theft of the bell from Susteren ? It was removed from it's original tower by the Germans for scrap but then not taken away but was never re-hung and has now been stolen from the square.

Rich, had not heard that news yet. I'm not surprised, the current prices for metals like copper, brass and lead attract a lot of thieves. You would not believe the number of times trains come to a standstill due to thieves robbing copper cables!

Thanks,
Hanno

[Dave Page]

Hi Keith,
I think you are correct, it does appear to be a Morris 15cwt. The reference points I can make out are:
1. the leading edge height of the left wing and the clearance of the wing from the bonnet.
2. the bottom edge of the windscreen is lower than the height of the body side, and it seems to slope up toward the centre. The Guy Ant body is the same height as the bottom of the windscreen.
Cheers,
Dave

[nuyt]

Italians taking care of allied vehicles

[nuyt]

deciphering an Egyptian numberplate in Greece

[Radek]

interesting when is possible took the vehicles why not the sign.