Sensible laws for teachers in Toronto..

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Ferchrissakes, GIVE IT UP.

Neither of you are going to win this one and you both know it. Take it elsewhere.

FWIW, having owned and shot firearms for 47 years now I tend to side with Derek in this one, but I can also see how that's gotten right out of control.

Then again, it's out of control here too, isn't it? And we're supposed to be the better way of doing things.

I've got news for you - we're not. We're just different. As far as I'm concerned you can preach about responsible gun ownership all you like but as long as our social system continues to erode the problems associated with urban violence are just going to keep building. There's no going back, either.

I have to get back to work. Either apply these arguments to the original topic or think about something else for a change. I'm thinking about Gracies Lovelies, myself.

So there.