Workshop Trucks - Page 3

Richard Hughes · #61 21-06-07, 15:36

Les

That last picture looks like it could well be similar . So the cut out in the centre tailgate is a post war mod . Would the floor have been completly taken out and re setup for revised tools when it went back for refit at workshops as well ??

Neil thanks for the Ruddington info as well all good stuff

Richard Hughes

Les Freathy · #62 21-06-07, 23:26

David, type K are indeed a bit on the rare side but i think this is the one you want it has the electric welder under the bench and the anvils are the give away.

The layout includes= electric welder, welding and cutting torchesx2, plant, welding controller, portable forges x2, blacksmith kits anvils and blocks and a switch board not sure where that is fitted as i cannot see it on the photo
cheers
Les

David Potter · #63 22-06-07, 06:40

Les,

Thank you for Type K info; the welding plant looks very similar to Murex unit fitted to British 15cwt KL.

David

Noel Burgess · #64 23-06-07, 00:28

Here's an IWM photo from Korea. It shows a woodworking lorry with Universal Woodworking macine - is that a Retriever or similar 6x4 it's mounted on?
Noel

Richard Hughes · #65 25-06-07, 09:50

I attach some pictures of the rear of my workshop lorry as you can see it has the post war (??) tail gate and the work bench that is permantently attached.

Richard Hughes

Noel Burgess · #66 26-06-07, 00:02

Richard
I believe that the narrow tail gate with integral steps was the norm on British war time bodies (6x4 & 4x4).

I intended to ask why those that I posted did not have this feature - which I would have expected them to have

Noel

Richard Farrant · #67 26-06-07, 00:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Noel Burgess
Richard
I believe that the narrow tail gate with integral steps was the norm on British war time bodies (6x4 & 4x4).

I intended to ask why those that I posted did not have this feature - which I would have expected them to have

Noel,

By coincidence, Richard Hughes and I have been discussing this tonight.

The narrow tailgate was only on workshop bodies. The two photos with full width drop tailboards that you refered to on an earlier message are not workshop bodies of this pattern, the first was an Albion 4x4 and appeared to have a normal GS body, the other was a similar body to the breakdown gantry, but was a Royal Engineers workshop, the gantry was for lifting some of the equipment out, in order to operate them.

Geoff Robinson · #68 26-06-07, 18:55

Hi everyone,
I have found a nice 15A KL which I am in the process of buying. It will be my first CMP and I am excited to undertake the project.
I was happy to find this thread with all the excellent photos which will really help me out. As I progress, I will post some pics.
The truck in question is mostly complete and retains the original deck with bins, etc. The welder is missing of course but not of too much importance to me. I am sure I will soon be asking everyones advice and expertise.

Cheers,

Geoff

Alex Blair (RIP) · #69 26-06-07, 21:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Geoff Robinson
Hi everyone,
I have found a nice 15A KL which I am in the process of buying. It will be my first CMP and I am excited to undertake the project.
I was happy to find this thread with all the excellent photos which will really help me out. As I progress, I will post some pics.
The truck in question is mostly complete and retains the original deck with bins, etc. The welder is missing of course but not of too much importance to me. I am sure I will soon be asking everyones advice and expertise.

Cheers,

Geoff

Good find ...Try to track that welder down..It's worth 4X's the truck price..
Find it and steal it if you have too..They are rare ...
Good luck..Keep us in the loop..

Geoff Robinson · #70 26-06-07, 21:29

I will do my best. I have a feeling that the welder is likely located on a farm near to the remains of my truck. Wish me luck!

Richard Farrant · #71 14-08-07, 23:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
If this is of any interest it shows Fordson Workshop Trucks for sale in a 1961 Ruddington Catalogue

Neil,

In your Ruddington catalogue, is there any more WOT6 machy wagons listed, namely one, 38 YX 55 ? The description lists equipment carried, so to trace this actual vehicle, would answer questions on what kit was carried.

Neil Ashley · #72 15-08-07, 08:53

Give me a few days to check as they these vehicles were released over several years.

The equipment could have course been replaced during post-war
rebuilds.

Richard Farrant · #73 15-08-07, 23:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
Give me a few days to check as they these vehicles were released over several years.

The equipment could have course been replaced during post-war
rebuilds.

Thanks Neil,

Not sure when this one was released, but quite agree, the kit it carried may have been changed to suit needs in postwar service. Some evidence is present.

Neil Ashley · #74 30-08-07, 18:51

Richard

The closest number I have found is 38YX54 released in March 1961.

It carried a Denham Lathe, Grimston type EB Bench Drill, Valve Refacer and a Generator.

Denham Laths seem the most common in this catalogue with a few Regals. Other Bench Drill makes include Black and Decker, Ajax and Corona.

Richard Farrant · #75 01-09-07, 21:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
Richard

The closest number I have found is 38YX54 released in March 1961.

It carried a Denham Lathe, Grimston type EB Bench Drill, Valve Refacer and a Generator.

Neil,

Thanks, that could not be much closer! I think that is pretty much what was carried on this one, from marks on the bench which is still fitted.

Neil Ashley · #76 29-04-08, 19:37

Could this be a generator from a workshop truck.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-eng...QQcmdZViewItem

Richard Farrant · #77 29-04-08, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Ashley

Could this be a generator from a workshop truck.

Hi Neil,

Judging by the Eau-de-Nil paint, it looks like it was in a workshop truck. I was not aware that it was a Meadows engine, thought they could have been Coventry Climax, but that was only an assumption. According to the 1951 War Office book, REME Vol 2 - Technical, the Type X machinery truck on 3 ton 4x4 chassis, had a 5kw gen set, but it also shows that 9kw sets were mounted in 15cwt 4x2 trucks.

Bill Mulholland · #78 02-05-08, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

Good find ...Try to track that welder down..It's worth 4X's the truck price..
Find it and steal it if you have too..They are rare ...
Good luck..Keep us in the loop..

G'Day Brother Al; Me Too! I am also trying to track down a welder for the back of my KL - you should "acquire" me the one from down the street. It would be a bit of a bugger hauling it home on the bike however.
Cheers, Bill

Alex Blair (RIP) · #79 02-05-08, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Mulholland

G'Day Brother Al; Me Too! I am also trying to track down a welder for the back of my KL - you should "acquire" me the one from down the street. It would be a bit of a bugger hauling it home on the bike however.
Cheers, Bill

Uncle Bill!!
How are ya too...bye..!!
I thought you floated away..You must be on waterfront property,from the looks of that old river down in Brums'ik...
Post some pictures of your place and the river..
Bet the old Diamond "T" was the first thing headed for high ground..
Good to see you here.

Noel Burgess · #80 03-05-08, 22:25

Here's something from the site I have just posted about elsewhere http://cgsc.leavenworth.army.mil/car...entdm/home.htm
It's the manual - sorry it's the Handbook for "Artilery Repair Truck Body Model 1918". Wonderfull reading - especially the period language and very comprehensive as it includes photos and listing of the contents of every tool drawer.

John Sliz · #81 08-03-10, 20:30

What does the "KL" stand for?

S LATHERON (RIP) · #82 08-03-10, 21:18

Keep Locked. In case there a border raid !!

Richard Farrant · #83 08-03-10, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sliz

What does the "KL" stand for?

The type designation comes originally from the British Army. The Machinery lorries and trailers had letters denoting their types or roles. There was a K type based on a 3 ton 6x4 lorry, which was declared obsolete early in the war, it carried electric welding plant and generator, gas welding / cutting sets, 2 forges, 2 anvils and 2 blocks. It was replaced by the KL type fitted to a 15cwt 4x2 truck, now my belief is that KL stood for Type K, Lightweight.......unless someone else knows better

Richard

Grant Bowker · #84 09-03-10, 00:10

I had always understood that the L was for light, but wasn't aware of the K being a 3 ton welding unit. I'm working from memory, not documents on this...

Richard Farrant · #85 09-03-10, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

I had always understood that the L was for light, but wasn't aware of the K being a 3 ton welding unit. I'm working from memory, not documents on this...

Grant,

Details of the Type K ( 3ton 6x4) are from a War Office publication on REME activities during WW2. The photo of a KL in the book is a CMP, but I have seen photos of Morris Commercials as well.

Ryan · #86 22-09-11, 07:32

Guys, what is a Ford Light D workshop truck?
Can anyone show me a photo of or at least tell me if it is based on a Blitz?

Richard Coutts-Smith · #87 22-09-11, 09:32

Ryan, not getting confused by the Ford D Series 4x2 Cargo from the 1970's?
Rich.

Ryan · #88 22-09-11, 11:36

Hi Rich, no, not getting confused.
It's called a light D Workshop Lorry. Canadian and from 1945.

Lindsay Carr · #89 19-12-17, 20:58

Hello,
I am a Modeler who is currently working on a Field workshop Diorama and have a paint question about the inside of a CMP Workshop truck.

Would the walls of the inside of this truck be a cream color?
Would the drawers and workbenches be a cream color or a dark grey?

Ed Storey · #90 19-12-17, 22:31

Here are a couple of Type 'D1' Lorry images that may help you out.