water bag holder

oztankboy · #1 26-02-06, 05:40

Well what i'm after is information about this bracket on the passenger side door (right hand drive truck)

They appear on Aust built 40~41 Fords. Only mounted on the pass door and appear on atleast the 1 ton and up range of GS trucks. From the poor pics I have it looks like it is made fro flat bar and angle iron. It's mounted to the door by 3 bolts. Two at top and one centraly at the bottom.

So I would like to know what it is for, and any decent pics or dimentions of it so I can reproduce one as I have a 41 Ford 1tonner that has the mounting holes in the door for it.

Thanks!

Phil...

jim sewell · #2 26-02-06, 06:16

Phil
I have come across this frame mounted to the passenger door of a RHD truck before.
The truck was a chev 4x2 with the big singles Aust cab which may have been to Nth Africa.
I am also interested to know what it was for .
Regards
Jim S.

cliff · #3 26-02-06, 07:00

Fuel can holder frame. Some had it some did not.

Photo below shows one on a restored ute. Sorry origins of photo are unknown to me.

Cheers
Cliff

PS> Phil that photo of the Kingaroy Ford was taken by me.

oztankboy · #4 26-02-06, 09:06

Ok cool thanks for that Cliff !

Well got that pic off Rod Dux... Well you are the 1st person i have asked who knew what it was...

All the best mate!

Phil...

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #5 26-02-06, 13:19

I think you'll find it was actually to carry the canvas water bag as the image shows.
Bob

cliff · #6 27-02-06, 01:06

Bob after having a closer look you are right as there is a centre bar running across that the bag straps are hanging off.

Cheers
Cliff

oztankboy · #7 27-02-06, 01:41

Well here is another pic that I have found on the "OldCMP" site and it appears different in sttructure to the one with the waterbag.
So now my question is... is that one with the bag a "home made I think this MIGHT be right" item or an actual coppy/or is the real item?

Phil...

cliff · #8 27-02-06, 02:36

Most would have been field made and fitted so there would be no "one pattern Only' type fitting. So there fore it does not matter if it is different.

Cheers
Cliff

oztankboy · #9 27-02-06, 02:46

Here are 3 more photos tanken from an Aust army publication, Directorate of Mechanization. Unfortunatly it is only a photocopy and not all that clear.

Phil...

oztankboy · #10 27-02-06, 02:50

the one above is on a "Lorry, 3 ton, breakdown (Aust) No.2 and this one is on a "Lorry 3-ton signals office (Aust). All are 40~41 Aust Ford cabs with 1/4 vent windows in the doors, opening windscreen and roof hatch.

Phil...

oztankboy · #11 27-02-06, 02:55

And finaly this one is on a "Van 1-ton office (Aust) No.1 (trayback body). I also have a Van 1-ton, GS (Aust) (ute rear body) that shows the bolt holes in the door for the same bracket.

Phil...

oztankboy · #12 27-02-06, 03:34

OK and here is one final 1 i have just found on a chev wagon. Ita a head on high angle shot so you can see the depth of it.

Phil...

Keith Webb · #13 27-02-06, 19:31

This one is "Trucks, 3-ton, G.S. (Aust) No.1"

oztankboy · #14 27-02-06, 22:23

Ok... nice photo!

Here is a tel-tail sign from the same...

Phil...

#15 28-02-06, 10:18

Max & John Hedges Ford ute has one on it with a canvass bag in situ. I'm sure Max could do some measuring for you.

Max Hedges · #16 28-02-06, 12:27

hope this photo helps
Max

cliff · #17 28-02-06, 12:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Max Hedges
hope this photo helps
Max

Hi Max. The photo showing the bracket on the door I posted earlier on in the thread could be the one on your ute.

Cheers
Cliff

Max Hedges · #18 28-02-06, 12:54

Quote:

Originally posted by cliff
Hi Max. The photo showing the bracket on the door I posted earlier on in the thread could be the one on your ute.

Cheers
Cliff

Cliff could well be but I don't rember that water bag.
Max

oztankboy · #19 28-02-06, 13:27

Max thats a realy nice ute you have there! I have a very sad example myself. But I have a much better example og the tray back vertion that I am going to restore. Thats why I have been enquireing about this bracket.

It looks half decent in this pic but believe me it aint but will supply some valuable parts for the 41 1ton tray back.

Phil...

Max Hedges · #20 28-02-06, 13:44

Phil, we still have a couple of things to do yet to tidy the ute up, one is our tail gate is not original and we also need to have cover made for the back.
Max

oztankboy · #21 28-02-06, 13:51

Well my one is missing the tailgate too. It was used in the movie "The Great Raid" as a Japanese transport and had quite alot of mods done to it to get it going for the filming. Not to mention the rust!

However things like the grill, running boards etc will be put to good use.

If there is anything I may be able to help you out with just give me a cooee!

Phil...

Max Hedges · #22 20-07-06, 13:30

rember this topic, here is a picture of what they were like

oztankboy · #23 20-07-06, 16:26

hi there!

Great photo of it.. it was me who 1st posted the thread about these. Any chance to get some measurments of this critter?

Phil...

Max Hedges · #24 20-07-06, 23:56

measurements are

17 3/8 inches high

16 1/2 inches wide

4 5/8 inches deep

with a 1/2 inch hole where the rod goes through to carry the water bag

It is made from 1 1/4 by 1/4 inch flat steel

oztankboy · #25 21-07-06, 02:01

Hey Max thanks for that mate!

Phil...

Mike Cecil · #26 21-02-19, 02:52

Ha! That's the bracket I had on my 1 ton ute, and the original waterbag! Photos were taken in my shed at Gunning. It is an original bracket which I think Max copied for his ute.

The bracket most probably went with the ute to John Belfield a few years after those shots were taken. Don't remember what happened to the water bag.

Ten years ago now..... time flies.

Mike