1942 cmp f15a

[leo tomaiolo]

now that i have the truck in the proper side of the shed. i have finally started the tear down of my f15a. started with the bumper and attachments. got the radiator out and safely stored for now. head lights are out. it seems like every time i work on it i find a new item i didn't know i was missing on the f60l. i'm hoping in the next couple of weeks to get the cab off and get the engine and transmission out. more pictures to follow.

[leo tomaiolo]

getting the cab ready to come off. the oil filter has a nice decal still on it and it has a return line that goes to a banjo bolt at the fuel pump/oil fill location. while i'm pretty sure the cmp came with an oil filter i'm thinking this is not the original one. i also noticed my intake has 2 factory vacuum ports cast right in to it. one for the wipers and one for the distributor. never saw an intake with 2 ports before. up next getting the body mount bolts free.

[leo tomaiolo]

i made a dolly to put the cab on. unfortunately the cab mount bolts were all rust frozen and no amount of heat was going to free them so i ended up cutting them off. but i was able to unbolt the observation hatch. the rubber gasket came off in one piece and is in fair shape. so i should be able to reuse it. next up, getting the tool box and bed off. so far so good. there are so many little details that were missing from my other cmp. i have 100 + pictures, at this point.

[Bob Carriere]

Broken bolts are sometimes a great time saver...... you probably would have had to replace it with a new one anyways and it is quicker......the precious oneslike wheel studs, rims studs are best treated to many heat cold cycles and forward and reverse on the impact........ if you over do it you will break studs and or have oval nuts........ don't ask how we know........

Get gasket material andmake new ones ...use the old one as a template..... your passenger will appreciate a dry ride in the rain....... decals for Ford are available from Mac Auto on the web and other repro places.....

You are lucky they stillmake Ford master cylinders for the brakes....... Spaenour is a good source for modern old looking bolts and square nuts caged or free ranging...... watch the e brake bolts for the handle they have to be made due to the step size.....

Enjoy........

[leo tomaiolo]

i finally got the cab in the garage. it came apart pretty easy. i had to cut the strip of metal off the back of the cab. broke the rest of the bolts. and the tops off.

[leo tomaiolo]

the wind screens are going to need some serious attention. but i'm getting there.

[Jacques Reed]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Broken bolts are sometimes a great time saver...... you probably would have had to replace it with a new one anyways and it is quicker......the precious oneslike wheel studs, rims studs are best treated to many heat cold cycles and forward and reverse on the impact........ if you over do it you will break studs and or have oval nuts........ don't ask how we know.............

Good Day,

I posted this a while back on MLU and on a FB CMP page and is worth noting again.

The cab mounting bolts are in the rare bolt category as shown in the attached.
Contrary to popular belief they are not just engine mounting bolts.

I added the Ford part numbers to the photo and as shown only one engine bolt, B 6047, is a generic Ford part (no asterisk). All the other ones are unique to Ford CMP's. One engine bolt is longer for the earth strap, and it too is unique to the CMP's.

The height of the shoulders on the cab mounting bolts are different to those of the engine mounting bolts as is the height of the threaded parts.

Sometimes there is no alternative for removing or they are so wasted away they snap anyway and would be unusable. Thats when a bit of ingenuity comes in to make a substitute.

Cheers,

[Ganmain Tony]

Question for you Lee

When you dismantled the Roof Hatch. Did it have any rubber or timber between the the metal frame and the roof itself?

Any documentation and photos you can provide would be extremely useful including any pictures of the rubber surround between roof lid and the frame.

Please - Great job you are doing by the way

[leo tomaiolo]

Jacques, thanks for the information on the cab/body mount bolts. luckly for me the set from the f60 all came apart intact. but i didn't label them, so that will be sorted out at a later date.

[leo tomaiolo]

i do have a bunch of pictures from the hatch, Ganmain. all the bolts holding the hatch on came lose no problem. the rubber was intact and came apart with out ripping. the hatch had a gasket on both sides of the roof. orange and kinda like a canvas with rubber impregnated in to it. the top gasket was pressed pretty flat but the bottom gasket was still it's original thickness, 1/8"or 3mm. each gasket was made from 4 pieces. there was a steel backer for the bottom gasket. the hatch door gasket was also in good shape. that was made from a thick black rubber. it too was made from 4 pieces but they were glued together.

[leo tomaiolo]

the orange gaskets were fitted pretty lose. maybe they shrank a bit. you can see the extra holes for the hinges.

[Ganmain Tony]

Very handy to see all that Lee, and very well documented with really good photo's.

Jury's still out for me wether timber was used originally between the hatch surround and the roof but I am leaning towards that theory.

The couple we pulled to bits, the bolts were long and very rotten in the middle indicating some organic material added to their corrosion. The middle material was timber sandwiched between two rubber gaskets. It certainly appeared that they had never been disturbed from factory but that is only gut feeling.

Still you can only go on what's in front of you. There are threads with pictures of Ford hatches but they get blurry when enlarged making it near impossible to see the original packing used.

[leo tomaiolo]

i can't believe it's been a year since i posted my progress. new computer and just super busy. but i have been working on the cmp right thru. with the cab off i have taken the engine out. i won't be using this block. so it will go into storage for now. it does have a rebuild plate dated 1947. the engine from the f60 will be used. it's at the machine shop and should be done in a few months. i use the winch to roll the frame back up over the 4" lip on my concrete pad. saves a lot of effort. now the engine and transmission are ready to be split.

[leo tomaiolo]

so the transmission is in tough shape inside. the gear cluster is pretty much spare parts. so i will be using the transmission from the f60 also. it's in fantastic shape. i do a separate post on the transmissions later. so i have continued to strip down the frame. took the 3 small tool boxes off the under side of the bed. there in rough shape. probably fab them new, when i do the large tool box behind the cab too. i took the 41 to a local show, didn't unhook the PAK yet. can't be all work. lol

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Leo

Once the tranny is cleaned up you may be surprised how good the parts are bearings may need replacing but the guts may be very good.

The small fuel can boxes are easy enough to repro as most bends are 90 degrees.... the bigger tool box is a little more complicated.

Good luck with your resto......

Bob C