Sherman IC T-269916

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

big mistake !!!!! the T number is 269916 sorry sorry
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I was writing it from memory , and went now outside to check it and i wrote down the wrong number in this forum this morning ,can i still change the tread?

Hi Maurice, I have edited your first post and the header of the thread.

PS: any member can edit their own posts: click the edit button, change the text and then click save

[Colin Alford]

Maurice,

Please see the attached images.

The front of the form is blurry but it appears to me that 269916 was turned in by 22 CAR (Canadian Grenadier Guards)

If this is correct then I presume your vehicle must have passed through more than one unit as the tactical marking for 22CAR was 52.

Link to record: https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12742/1101

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Wow Colin, that’s a great find!

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Colin Alford

Maurice,

Please see the attached images.

The front of the form is blurry but it appears to me that 269916 was turned in by 22 CAR (Canadian Grenadier Guards)

If this is correct then I presume your vehicle must have passed through more than one unit as the tactical marking for 22CAR was 52.

Link to record: https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12742/1101

Nice find... and therefore it will exist elsewhere in the records.

[Tim Bell]

269916 - Appears to have been received by F squadron 25 CADR on 27th March 45 from 164 Vehicle Park.

Not sure who/what 164 vehicle park were (hope someone else knows), however this may support the belief the vehicle was transferred from another unit. Presumably the vehicle was issued to 22 CAR shortly after this

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Tim

[Tim Bell]

Condition Classes were I to IV, where I was best condition.

[Maurice Donckers]

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

[Maurice Donckers]

And Jakko , there are several period pictures where the fireflies have a name on the rear of the turret .
I have a picture here from in geleen , and the whole parked column has a name on the back

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

Look forward to seeing it.

Tim

[Tim Bell]

269916 - Transferred from F squadron to E squadron on 13th April 45

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Confirmed receipt by E from F... the records read UP from the line identifying the vehicle type (unless there are "" marks under the record - in which case they read down).

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From E to D on 24th April 45:

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[Colin Alford]

D Sqn 25 CADR supported 4 Cdn Armd Div.

Here are the pages of the D Sqn War Diary for the last week of April ‘45.
https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12748/1460

Using this information combined with the Daily Balance sheets found by Tim, it would appear that D Sqn received 269916 in the early evening of 23 Apr, and the earliest they possibly delivered it to 22 CAR was 28 Apr (the delivery shows a quantity but not the WD number).

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

Looking forward to see it running, Maurice. No doubt it will be a stunning restoration.

[Maurice Donckers]

yes Hanno, was a long restoration , the interior from a standard Sherman is 10 times easyer,next project humber box .
Some interesting reading on here , Shipping data mentions jan.44 and another data is march 44 , Arrival for conversion?
The was a lot of stenciling on the sides , but difficult to decipher, About battery`s , Fuel drained , etc, also wireless set installed (american code for 19 set )most overpainted again with the same paint color, even the firefly conversions, a bit of red oxide , and then us dark olive drab.

[Jakko Westerbeke]

I can’t work out from what you’re saying if you overpainted everything, or if that had been done before you got the tank. However, if you’re the one who overpainted things with:—

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

us dark olive drab.

then I must point out that Dark Olive Drab No. 41 is a USAAF colour, because they found that the standard OD No. 9 (or No. 22 — same colour, different number) was too light for use on aircraft.