Question for Rob Love......

[Bob Carriere]

I found them.....

Hanno can you change the top posting to include the words tie rod ends for CMP.......hoping that it will make searches easier inthe future.

I am now convinced that the tie rod pictured was cleaned and reassembled on my C15a but is different on how it is assembled and you wilsee the differentce plus I will take another on apart to confirm.

First picture is the one I am currently measuring......

STUCK ON MANAGE ATTACHMENTS

[Bob Carriere]

First picture of the one I am currently measuring.... this isthe one we are currently measuring.....look at the difference with the old one I took apart years ago,,,,,

Second picture on the right....is the old set of pictures....taken when rebuilding my C15a with an early front axle using a R-Zeppa u-joint inside the egg cup.

Tird pic. of same T/i/ seens from underneath....... the one I am measuring in the top left has a large C clip holding the base inserted cap in place....( will undo one and document)
See the arrow pointing to the large recessed cotter pin holding the screwed on bottom cap....
Fourth pic..... see the arrows pointing tothe different holes indicating some adjustment is possible.....
One the Fifth....the guts of it all....... around ball at the bottom....two side insert....the spring that hols them when inserted inside.... the small coil spring that attached tothetwo holesshown on each of the two little pillow blocks....

See the next post

[Bob Carriere]

got to do the photos first

Number 6.... see the two side pillows highly polished and they have two spring holes forthe flatcoil behind that has bent ends

Noticed the heavy base plug withthe sthreaded side forsettinga preset pressure..... and oddly....look theholeis not perfectly centred!!!!

The finished prodcut Pitcure 7 shows how it assembles.....and it istricky and greasy.... one pillow withthe central taper...then the second taper....then try putting the coil spring in the holes a three man job..

The finished product usually has a rubber flat stiff gasket to keep the grease in near the ball.... amatching light gauge steel flat washer the spring and the nut

I greased mine with Molybdenum hi-pressure Grey grease using a greasing needle attachment tomy grease gun...... it allows the grease to be pushed/squirted real deep were it is need...... cap adjustment is threaded in place at least deep enough to access the cotter pinholes and then tight enough to lock the tapered pin....back off one or two until it can be move stiffly by hand


Tomorrow may try taking the other model with the C clip at the bottom to see how they work....

Stay tuned......

....any speculation on the copper color...... my theory is that the central tapered post/ball was polished and hard chromed than lightly plated with copper as a lubricant and as a wear indicator!! ?????

[David Herbert]

The copper plating is applied during manufacture to all the finished surfaces of the ball except the actual spherical surface. This acts as a mask to enable surface chemical hardening of the spherical surface without making the stem brittle. I worked for the Foden truck company in the '70s and they were still making their own front axles in house then including the tie rod ends. I asked about the copper plating and was told the above. They used a process called Nitriding (not sure it's spelt like that).

David

[Bob Carriere]

Thanks David

that explaines the copper color and ALSO increases the possibiity that they were made here in North America....maybe by a Ford sub-company.

You said Foden truck...... another lead to follow may have totrtace who owns them now!!!

Cheers

Bob C

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

You said Foden truck...... another lead to follow may have totrtace who owns them now!!!

Cheers

Bob C

Bob,
Foden was absorbed into the Paccar group, who are based in your part of the world. The marque no longer exists.