MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 14-11-22, 11:01
Jakko Westerbeke Jakko Westerbeke is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 353
Default

I haven’t been back, but earlier this year I asked about it, and by this photo he sent me, they’ve started rebuilding the armour:

1T3045 bonnet.jpeg

And are doing it by welding pieces into the existing plates, rather than building a new cab from scratch as they originally intended to do.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14-11-22, 11:25
tankbarrell tankbarrell is offline
Adrian Barrell
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 860
Default

I thought the 1T serials were all D7s?
__________________
Adrian Barrell
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15-11-22, 11:08
Jakko Westerbeke Jakko Westerbeke is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 353
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tankbarrell View Post
I thought the 1T serials were all D7s?
No, 1T is the prefix for all the armoured bulldozers Caterpillar built for the British, both D6(Armored) and D7(Armored).¹ The D6s were 1T3001–1T3045² and the D7s were 1T1001–1T1138.


¹ Which, BTW, appear to be Caterpillar’s actual designations, rather than D6A and D7A that everyone uses nowadays.
² But there is a photo of one marked 1T3060 as well, which has yet to be explained AFAIK.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 15-11-22, 13:49
tankbarrell tankbarrell is offline
Adrian Barrell
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 860
Default

Thanks for that Jakko! I knew the 1T serials don't appear in normal Caterpillar productions lists but had just thought they were all D7s. Good to know the facts.
__________________
Adrian Barrell
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 15-11-22, 19:43
David Herbert David Herbert is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland - previously Suffolk
Posts: 563
Default

I am sure that I have seen standard un-armoured D7s with 1T numbers but I didn't record the actual number and of course they could have been rebuilt from armoured ones. Post war there were also 3T and 4T un-armoured D7s. I wonder what the 2Ts were if that designation was used?

David
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 15-11-22, 22:29
tankbarrell tankbarrell is offline
Adrian Barrell
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 860
Default

2T's were standard D4. 2, 3 and 4T serials all appear in Caterpillar production lists but 1T's do not.
__________________
Adrian Barrell
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 16-11-22, 02:08
Dave Newcomb's Avatar
Dave Newcomb Dave Newcomb is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: nr Portland Or
Posts: 101
Default Cat museum in Brooks, Oregon at Powerland.

There is an extensive Cat museum in the Powerland complex in Brooks, Oregon Those folks may be a help. Dave [in Oregon USA]
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 16-11-22, 11:11
Jakko Westerbeke Jakko Westerbeke is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 353
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tankbarrell View Post
I knew the 1T serials don't appear in normal Caterpillar productions lists
They do for the D6(Armored):


(previously posted here)

I haven’t seen a list for the D7-series, but I would suspect they appear there too?

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Herbert View Post
I am sure that I have seen standard un-armoured D7s with 1T numbers but I didn't record the actual number and of course they could have been rebuilt from armoured ones.
According to this page, only the armoured ones had 1T prefixes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Herbert View Post
Post war there were also 3T and 4T un-armoured D7s.
Actually from 1944, according to that same site. I get the impression from that that 3T was the next prefix used for the D7 after the 3M series reached 9999 (the 1T D7s are basically 3M-series tractors with armoured cab etc.) while 4T is from another factory.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 16-11-22, 11:23
Tim Bell's Avatar
Tim Bell Tim Bell is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall
Posts: 804
Default

2C is for the Medium M4 tank transmission units.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 16-11-22, 11:24
tankbarrell tankbarrell is offline
Adrian Barrell
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Suffolk, UK
Posts: 860
Default

But is that book a Caterpillar publication? I have two different lists compiled from Caterpillar records (apparently) and none of the 1T serials are mentioned.
__________________
Adrian Barrell
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 16-11-22, 11:09
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,767
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakko Westerbeke View Post
I haven’t been back, but earlier this year I asked about it, and by this photo he sent me, they’ve started rebuilding the

And are doing it by welding pieces into the existing plates, rather than building a new cab from scratch as they originally intended to do.
That's awesome! I am happy they choose to take this route and restore the original armour in stead of making something new!
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Caterpillar D4 dozer Rob Beale The MLU Sappers Mess 4 25-11-15 06:50


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 18:54.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016