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Old 19-03-22, 15:56
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My opinion is to let them build. I think it’s great that thanks to our veterans the French have the ability to be building near these sites. Is time supposed to stand still for ever? Of course not. The last time I was at Dieppe, it was for the 75th Anniversary. There was a large Summer festival including midway rides located on the grass promenade between the beach and the town. Some were understandably upset that such a festival was taking place in a place where their loved ones had been killed or wounded or captured. However I told them look at it in a different light of isn’t it great that people are able to have fun and carry on with life in a place and not to let 9hrs define it for ever.
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Old 19-03-22, 17:05
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I agree with Jordan. The whole country was a battlefield, and more than once. Progress is progress. There is a museum there now, and hopefully it will be there for a long time.

As to the damage on their road, both from construction now and the increased traffic from the condos in the future, that is a civil matter. Unfortunate for the museum...perhaps they can relinquish the road to the city and the city would have to maintain it. Unfortunate that the museum had to spend $400,000 to try and prevent the use of the road.

About 12 years ago, a neighbor was going to subdivide and sell the 20 acres which bordered the back of my triangular shaped property. I live rural so as to not have neighbors that close to me. So I bought the property from her to leave alone. It was either pay up or live with the progress. The property will one day be a nest egg for us or our heirs when we move on.
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Old 19-03-22, 17:20
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Jordan Baker fully agree. It is a redevelopment of an existing site, not part of what was Juno beach. The main problem is that the road leading up to Juno Beach Centre will now have to be shared with builders and then inhabitants of the new appartement buildings.
It seems most people who get angry about this think the apartments are being built ON the beach and this is clearly incorrect.

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Old 19-03-22, 21:20
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Agree with the others as posted previously. Construction of the Museum itself altered the landscape in its own right.
As Rob L pointed out, Europe was all a battlefield. Rebuilding it was part of progress as well as healing.
One only has to look right here at home to see ancient battlefields paved over for development.
Look to the Niagara peninsula and shores of Lake Ontario (War of 1812), Quebec (1756) etc. The former site of Camp X is hardly even decernable now albeit from a small memorial park tucked in between large buildings in an industrial development.
We can hardly criticize the actions of the sovereign Nation of France while we have committed the same thing right here.
And don’t forget, We were Visitors in 1944 and it wasn’t and still isn’t Ours.
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Old 16-04-22, 15:49
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This is getting ridiculous. The French court ruled over this matter. What is the Canadian government going to do about it?

My humble opinion is that if the Canadian Government and the people behind “save Juno beach” are serous they would make the centre a star attraction that would pay real respect to the Juno Beach veterans, one that would draw a huge crowd. Currently it is not really worth visiting more than once, in my humble opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who are stirring this up are after some sort of law suit to reap benefits from damages paid, if it would come to that.
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Old 16-04-22, 16:13
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Hanno, I personally don’t consider CBC news worthy of my time nor my respect.
I certainly wouldn’t put any weight or value on their journalism….
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Old 16-04-22, 16:26
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Hanno, I personally don’t consider CBC news worthy of my time nor my respect.
I certainly wouldn’t put any weight or value on their journalism….
Ah, but you did notice how the CBC jammed in another phot op of our boy Prime Minister being, well, all supportive-like of our veterans. Glam and no substance of course but optics are optics.
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Old 16-04-22, 16:22
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When I was at the museum I asked one of the staff about its shape and silver exterior, hoping to understand the significance and symbolism behind it. The bright young thing cheerfully said it was meant to resemble fish scales, a salmon more precisely. Why? I asked, what's the connection to Canadians and D-Day? All I got was a blank stare and silence.
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