CMP Ford F60S

rob love · #1 18-12-21, 05:55

According to the F60L parts manual, the Cab 13 was introduced at serial 21566. Your serial (25938) seems to be about 4372 down the line, which is surprising that they pumped out that many in less than a month.

RichCam · #2 31-12-21, 14:01

Guys, I concur on the 42 verses the 41 year of production and it would appear that the engine/transmission matches the ID tag. I guess I will be celebrating an 80th Birthday on Tuesday for the F60S!
Now that I have the box off of the frame, I have been able to look more closely at the hydraulic lift mechanism. According to the brass name plate, it is an Edwards Bros (Tipper) Ltd. from Bolton, near Manchester, UK. Considering that it looks to be a professional installation, the aluminum hydraulic pump unit bolts into the air pump housing location on the transmission, up and down hoist activation left is located through the floorboard on the left side of the driver's seat. My question to the MLU gurus is, did Edwards Bros sell their hoists in Canada? I would think it a bit odd and expensive for a Canadian made F60S to go to the UK to have a civilian hoist installed on it and then have it shipped back to Canada for post war service. As always, comments welcome.

David Dunlop · #3 31-12-21, 17:28

Hi Richard.

That is the first data plate I have ever seen referencing a CMP built to fulfill two possible Contracts. Is it possible to track that contract down to see what it is all about?

My feeble thought at the moment is if that vehicle was indeed built 5 January 1942, the Battle of the Atlantic was peaking between January and July 1942 in terms of shipping losses suffered. Maybe two identical contracts were combined, the thought being anything intended for England would still be used to complete the Canadian Contract if shipping came to a halt.

Second point. Post war England was broke and any manufacturing would be working flat out to sell product anywhere they could in the Commonwealth. Edward Brothers would have been very familiar with CMP’s and it would have been nothing for them to custom design their Tipper Kits for any Ford or Chevrolet CMP and ship it anywhere for local installation. By todays standards, postwar shipping was cheap. Lots of cargo/freighters heading everywhere. The ad you posted shows distributors for this product across the UK. They probably had a Canadian distributor as well.

So you probably have a very unusual CMP, built at an interesting time during the war, that stayed in Canada and got a very interesting civilian conversion in its post war life. You lucky guy!

David

Hanno Spoelstra · #4 01-01-22, 11:54

All in all a very interesting truck. I think we agree the delivery date is a miss strike, as stated by Keith ten years ago.

Edbro has been around since 1916 and they still thrive: https://www.edbro.com/en/profile.html
They did deliver tippers during WW2, but mostly on British trucks IIRC. Reading that they always exported conversion kits, I think this is most likely a postwar conversion.

RichCam · #5 01-01-22, 13:36

Guys, thanks again for your comments, all of this information helps to fill in the back history on this truck. The end goal is to convert it into a Tipper LSVW (Dave St. Laurent pics from 2016) using as many as possible authentic CMP components. It would appear that I have almost everything that I need to complete this conversion/restoration so I'm hoping to "get 'er done" in the next 3 months. I will continue to update my progress on MLU.