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Old 25-09-21, 02:02
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Hello from the UK.

I have just joined the Forum and own a 1957 ex-Canadian Army Triumph TRW. I am hoping to trace the history of my motorcycle and learn more about the use of the TRW by the Canadian forces. All I know so far is that my motorcycle was despatched from the Triumph factory on 1 January 1957 and supplied to the "Ministry of Supply, Canadian Army" (quote from the factory records).

In 2015 it was one of 17 ex-Canadian Army TRWs re-imported back to the UK by a dealer in Wales. It has had one previous UK owner since then and I purchased the motorcycle last month.

Any information on where I might find out about my motorcycle's history during it's time in Canada would be very welcome (even if it was just stuck in a crate in some military warehouse).

The photo below shows my motorcycle as it is now with its UK registration number.

Dave


I was a Dispatch Rider in the Royal Canadian Corps of Signals Reserve during the late '50s and the '60s, riding that very type of bike. The CFR of "mine" was 56-90674.

BTW, picky point...the saddle bags are not the correct type as issued.

Thanks for posting and bringing back good memories!

PS...just noticed, there's something about the muffler (silencer)..it seems to me that it was somewhat "fatter".
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Old 25-09-21, 02:44
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How did the dealer manage to round up 17 TRWs in Canada? That is no small feat.



Can you post your serial number? There is a very small chance that it could be researched over to a CFR.
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Old 25-09-21, 12:49
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How did the dealer manage to round up 17 TRWs in Canada? That is no small feat.



Can you post your serial number? There is a very small chance that it could be researched over to a CFR.
Hi Rob

Thank you for your interest. I am still waiting to hear back from the dealer who re-imported the 17 bikes to the UK as to where he got them from. Below is a photo of the 17 outside his premises after they were unloaded. Sadly I don't know which one is mine.

I also think mine particular bike has had some minor cosmetic restoration at some point as it doesn't have the serial number on the tank.

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Old 25-09-21, 10:21
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I was a Dispatch Rider in the Royal Canadian Corps of Signals Reserve during the late '50s and the '60s, riding that very type of bike. The CFR of "mine" was 56-90674.

BTW, picky point...the saddle bags are not the correct type as issued.

Thanks for posting and bringing back good memories!

PS...just noticed, there's something about the muffler (silencer)..it seems to me that it was somewhat "fatter".
Hi Jon, Thanks for your interest and comments. I was aware the saddle bags were incorrect, these were fitted by the last owner and are in fact webbing back packs. I am on the lookout for a pair of the correct saddle bags, which I am informed were green canvas with 'Y' straps? Maybe you can confirm this?

The exhaust system has also been replaced so the silencer may well be slightly different.
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Old 25-09-21, 13:07
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Hi Jon, Thanks for your interest and comments. I was aware the saddle bags were incorrect, these were fitted by the last owner and are in fact webbing back packs. I am on the lookout for a pair of the correct saddle bags, which I am informed were green canvas with 'Y' straps? Maybe you can confirm this?

The exhaust system has also been replaced so the silencer may well be slightly different.
Dave...Yes you described the saddle bags much as they were.There was a left and right, dictated by the buckle arrangement over the rear structure. I have one bag but reckless storage has allowed some mildew to appear. If you are interested, I think I still have it in a shed out back. If I find it I'm agreeable to sending it to you if you think you can tackle the surface mildew.

One point of interest... the front shocks (dampers) are prone to compressing sufficiently to allow the headlamp to smash down and be damaged by the upright licence plate so don't do too much cross country...the bike was designed as a street bike, not suitable for cross country operation. If you ever see a Canadian military registered bike, you'll invariably see the plate corner bent over in order to cushion the hit.
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Old 25-09-21, 14:44
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Welcome, and my condolences to your significant other. The Green Disease as we here often call it, is unmerciless. Just last week I was compelled to agree to drive 2 hours out and back to help fuel another member's need for military surplus parts. The disease is not pretty in its final stages.

You will learn that Canadian records, as Ed describes are sporadic or simply unavailable. The numbering system for land vehicles has a finite five-digit format and older records are constantly being overwritten as new equipment is taken into service. A few years ago I followed a staff car with the plate # 01234.

Good luck on the rebuild and the preservation. Too often the owners of surplus equipment delight in thrashing it to death and ignoring its maintenance. Parts are harder and harder to find and owners give up.
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Old 25-09-21, 14:45
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It looks like a bit of a mixed bag of bikes: some restored, some original, some civilianised. I am going to guess that someone harvested all the bikes that came up for sale on kijiji and various forums for a year or three. I have noticed that the supply of bikes has slightly dwindled on kijiji for the past while....prices have gone up as well.
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