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Old 17-09-21, 19:45
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Ah yes, the vaccine passport. A contentious issue here in Canada as the governments are making it mandatory to take the jab or lose your job. Personally, I got the vaccine as soon as it was available to me, however I believe and understand in the freedom of choice for those who do not want an experimental drug put in their body. Here in Canada that represents about 20% of the eligible population.



That 20% has been showing up wherever our current PM has been campaigning, shouting slurs and expressing their displeasure with him and his mandates.



In this province you require both shots in order to go to places like restaurants, museums or most events. We have cards with a Q code on them, and have to show ID as well. Can tattoos be in the future?


Strange times.

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Old 17-09-21, 21:52
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The polio vaccine was an experimental drug that every school kid received. It eradicated polio. The smallpox vaccine eradicated smallpox. If it wasn't for the fact that these anti-vaxers can wander around like typhoid mary I say let them be. Too many snowflakes claiming "rights".
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Old 17-09-21, 23:07
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And thalidomide was prescribed to many pregnant women in order to relieve pregnancy nausea.


I don't think we are going to achieve an agreement on this subject. I also do not believe that if we manage to vaccinate 95% of the eligible population we are going to eradicate this one. Children under 12 are not presently allowed to vaccinate, they congregate from families into groups daily, and their own risk of serious illness is minimal. Never mind that variants of Covid have and will develop which are more resistant to the current vaccinations.



As I said, I got vaccinated as soon as it was available to me. But I respect those that are waiting for more data so they can make an informed decision.
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Old 18-09-21, 01:19
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UK figures:

150,000 deaths from COVID-19 due to government incompetence. That's 0.15 Megadeaths.

120,000 deaths from government austerity. That's twice the British casualties on the first day of the battle of the Somme.

4.3 million children in poverty. (That's 363 Tory MPs who should resign.)

(Simon Roth on Twitter.)

OK, that wasn't really about COVID, but the vaccine is no longer "untested" or "rushed through" and the risks of an adverse reaction are far lower than the risk of death or permanent disability if you aren't vaccinated and catch it.

(Approx figures: The USA has lost 650,000 people to COVID-19, so far,

Vaccination reduces the risk of catching it by 5 times. If you are unlucky enough to still catch it you are 10 times less likely to require hospital treatment, and if you are very unlucky and do end up in hospital you are 11 times less likely to die of it.)

As for the people pushing conspiracy theories and disinformation, the USA is currently having more than 3000 deaths per day from COVID-19, more than were killed on 9/11.

Chris. (I've had two shots and am waiting for the booster to be available, meanwhile I wear an effective (FFP3) mask if I'm out and about - it's simply not worth the risk not to.) YMMV
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Old 01-01-22, 23:57
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Well, I beat the odds. I am triple immunized, with my booster being less than a month ago. Made it through my recent Mexico trip and had to test the second last day there. All clear. Got dinged for another test here in Canada before I left the airport.....got the results Wednesday that all was good. But as I went to work Wednesday, I was feeling pretty tired. Of course, I had awoken at 3:30 aam and did not get back to sleep, so I wrote it off to that. Besides, I was tottally alone in the building, and also locked the door so I didn't get any visitors. There is the Omnicron running rampant after all.

Wednesday night I started having more symptoms, so went for a test along with the wife Thursday morning. The lineups are very long these days, so we got there early. Then we had to isolate, although my life is pretty much that way anyway. We did have family over for Christmas on Monday though. That was acceptable because we were both double vaccinated, and had no symptoms.



Tests came back today. Wife is negative. I am positive. It basically is like the dreaded man-cold. If I could ditch the sore throat I wouldn't mind it nearly so much. The extended family are showing no symptoms either, which should materialize by now or in the next few days.



Took a walk out to the shed yesterday in the -33 weather. While the nice thick air felt good, the numbness of the extremities did not. Luckily it was just for 10 minutes. Got to try out my new Manitobah Mukluks. Comfortable and warm, even if I didn't bother putting socks on.



They say everyone will catch this one. Here is is hoping you all have less symptoms than me, and get over it in a few days, or not even know you caught it at all.


Happy New years to all and stay safe, but keep on living.

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Old 02-01-22, 00:26
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Hang in there Rob . You have another trip to Mexico coming up in a couple of weeks .
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Old 02-01-22, 00:42
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Yep, and I won't have to pay for a PCR test to return if I was freshly off a case of Covid It has pissed off the wife as the test costs $130 Cdn. I told her I would trade if I could.



Temp jumped up from normal to 100.8, and now I have chills. Don't care about that stuff, I need this sore throat gone. I coud stand to lose another 20 pounds if it could be done safely. Then another 20 after that.
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