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Derk,
If my memory is correct, the handle with bends (C01Q 17081?) does not fit in the handle socket of the track jack, as it is too large. For carrier purposes, this handle is intended to be used with the rear wheel bearing nut socket (BB 17033?) and engine oil drain plug socket (C01Q 17033?). For CMP use, (C01Q 17033?) is also used for the front wheel bearing nuts on 4x4 vehicles. I believe that the hydraulic jack handle will fit the track jack, but the bendy handle will not. If you have a copy of FUC-02 or FUC-03 handy, I believe 78 17081 is listed as it is the "correct" handle for the track jack which was modified from the period commercial Ford bumper jacks (78-17080 and others). I'll confirm this evening. |
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Derk: I do not believe that 78-17081 is a close civilian handle. I believe it is one of the three handles listed in the parts manual, and was also used on civilian applications. If you do not have a 78-17081, you do not have the complete complement of handles that belong to the carrier.
That said, I have no doubt there will be some C01T 17081 out in our favorite surplus yard. The challenge, of course, will be to spot them in the acres of scrap. Last edited by rob love; 30-07-21 at 00:06. |
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I am now co-located with the appropriate reference material.
The correct part numbers are: C01UC 17081 A for the Walker hydraulic jack handle (B should be for use with the optional Auto Specialties jack but I have never seen any images of this type of jack) 78 17081 is correct for the track jack handle C01T (not Q as I stated above) 17081 is the bent handle that started this thread which is used with BB 17033 B and C01Q 17033. |
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Above I stated that I believed that the Walker handle could be used with the track jack. This is incorrect. Without use of a file/grinder, C01UC 17081 A and C01T 17081 are too thick to fit in the handle socket of the track jack.
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Derk,
Above you queried if C01T 17081 was adapted from a Ford commercial jack handle. I believe that it likely was but I don’t know the original part number or application. My C01T 17081 is not original, but I added the bends at the end to match an original. What I started with was what I presume to be a Ford commercial handle which was identical in all respects less the offset bends. I have also seen examples of these commercial handles with round vice square holes. Last edited by Colin Alford; 30-07-21 at 00:21. Reason: Added sentence |
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Well it can’t get much clearer than that and the photos tell the whole story of what handles belong to what tool. Thank you very much Colin for your help.
Rob, we have some searching to do now at our favourite place to find rusty gold! Stay tuned. Regards,Derk
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Colin,
I don't suppose you would be able to draw and post some sketches with measurements so I could make replicas of all three handles. I have the track jack and hydraulic jack and also the various sockets but none of the handles. Here in the UK I doubt that I will ever find originals.
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So looking at the relevant page that Colin has posted from the parts manual, it would appear that the track jack handle is the civilian 78-17081 part number. The remaining handles seem to be involved with the hydraulic jack and some secondary uses.
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