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Old 18-07-21, 21:33
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
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Default Correction and Photos....

Yes the proper dimension from top of closed lid to bottom is 13 1/2 inches....

See photo of my cab 11......absolutely ridiculous design...... there is not one service station nozzle that will fit that restricted space.

The cargo box is from a cab 13....temporary use while my 2B1 is being rebuilt.

Funnel and horse cock works well but requires 2 hands at the pump...... directly from the POW is fairly straight forward. I currently carry and use a 2 foot section of Chev rad hose which fits inside the filler neck and allows the service station pump to fit...... watch out for over filling!!!!

Pictures of the longer neck is obviously cab 12 and the special 1/2 thick re inforcement plate is visible.....mine on my cab 11 is hidden has I did my rear cab panel just a 1/2 in. longer when I reskinned.

So the box is composed of one large full width piece all prebent, the end caps, the two inside corner brackets for the 2 gal POW, the lid, four hinges and two hasp for the Cortby pad locks. The corner cut outs are done separately and pre bent one piece.

I would hard pressed to find a local fabricator capable of doing those box bends in one seamless piece and would likely haveto do it in multi piece Mig welded in a homemade jig.

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Ooops two pict. missing
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Old 18-07-21, 21:36
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Default Missing Pictures...

...always a glitch....
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Old 20-07-21, 03:22
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Just to add to Bob's photos, another shot of the 1/2" reinforcing plates under the 12 cab floor......saving weight clearly wasn't high on the agenda.

Owen.
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Old 20-07-21, 11:59
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Thank you Gentlmen,

Mine didn't have any sign of reinforcing plates under the floor and floor bolts were pretty rusty, so no evidence that a plate had been removed.

The tool box is being fabricated as we speak, I'll post pictures once complete.

Here's another question then: What's the larger loop on the cargo box behind the hoop loop?


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Old 20-07-21, 15:31
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Here's another question then: What's the larger loop on the cargo box behind the hoop loop?
If I undertand the question correctly, I believe you are looking at the double width loop just behind the single width loop. This is for storage of the two rearward hoops when not actually in place supporting the tarp. I'm not sure if they were strapped/tied together to reduce rattling.
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Old 20-07-21, 19:37
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Thanks Grant that makes sense.

Cheers,

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Old 22-07-21, 02:42
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Default Improvements on the cab 12......

In my opinion every production line modification/improvements on the cab 12 was a positive step in making the truck more practical and sturdier...

The geometry of the cab 11 is very weak.....without the doors...the cab is a box with no ends.... some Australian models tied a steel cable between the leading corners of the cab to the front grill....... the 1/2 inch plates were an improvements....so was the bar across the inside of the engine compartment....and the extra 5/8 of an inch space behind the back rest of the seat......... opening windshield...... water coolant expansion tank..... proper marking lights on the front fenders....... better fuel filler pipes...... what else am I forgetting....... a lot of these production line modifications were retro fitted to cab 11......

.....and the eventual cab 13 addressed even more issues...... like foot room.... padded round hatches to spare the ribs of observers.....

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Old 26-08-21, 16:38
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Thank you Gentleman for all the information regarding my tool box.

Thought you might want to see the finished product before painting and mounting.

Cheers,
Paul

New Toolbox 1.jpg New Toolbox 2.jpg New Toolbox 3.jpg
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Old 26-08-21, 17:17
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Beautiful job Paul .......

...are you taking orders...... the next 10 will be easier.

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Old 09-09-21, 23:51
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Hi Bob,

Are Corby padlocks still available? or would a suitable brass one suffice.

And, I'm in the process of thinking through the fixing down (I may be over thinking this). I understand you used "J" bolts and from your pictures it appears the "J" bolts goes down the face of the chassis rail but the hook of the "J" wouldn't clasp on the underside of the chassis rail..............wouldn't the "J" bolt be better hooking over the chassis cross member?

Also why are there 16 holes drilled in the bottom "U" section?...........I get 4 No. are for the "J" bolts

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Old 10-09-21, 01:17
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Hi Bob,

Are Corby padlocks still available? or would a suitable brass one suffice.

I think Bob meant to say Corbin locks. You can find them with US maker or Canada.....the Canada would be more authentic of course. LWD parts has a few left, but they have gone up a lot since the days when you could buy them in sets: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=31076


Another close padlock are the US padlock sets. Do a search on ebay and you will find them in sets of up to 6 keyed alike. https://www.ebay.com/itm/28443583124...MAAOSwenNhHWCm


Nice thing is they come with the retaining chain, so you don't leave them behind.



I have seen other brands used by the Canadian military back then. I have an old artillery tractor shell out back that still as one or two other brands hanging off some of the bins.
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Old 10-09-21, 02:02
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Default Boxe and locks.....

Yes CORBIN...... they do show up on Ebay occasionnaly.

Yes the tool box has a few more holes as I suspect it may have been used on other frame, Dodge for example, with different frame with...... select the four hole that line up best to your frame.

The J bolts fits down the outside of the frame and the bottom of the J is slightly curved up to hook on the frame inside edge......

I will need two more locks for the rear fuel can holders (also repro) ......... nice if they were all on the same key!!!!!

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Old 10-09-21, 03:26
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I suspect Bob was confused by the fact that both the Corbin Lock factory and Corby Distillery were in the Belleville area....
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Old 10-09-21, 05:42
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Paul.

This GM Service Bulletin may help you figure out the J bolts. Potentially your frame may also have the modifications done to it to use regular bolts.
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Old 10-09-21, 05:51
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Bob.

Check with any local locksmith who has been around for a while. They should be able to key any number of Corbin Padlocks alike for you.

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