CFR Request Thread

Sean McKee · #1 12-05-21, 19:32

I recently acquired an M151A2 and am interested in getting some history on what unit(s) it served in and where. No tac markings that are visible (it was repainted when welded back together) that could help tell the story. All I have is the serial on the data plate.

AM General 74-95012292
Engine looks to be original to the vehicle and is manufactured by Ford Canada (BTW, were the Ford engines in M151A2 CDN painted white? Mine is and just wondering if this is correct to the 74 pattern jeeps.

rob love · #2 12-05-21, 20:02

I never saw a Cdn made engine. There were grey painted engines, which were rebuilt. Never saw one in white. Original engines were semigloss black.

Ed Storey · #3 13-05-21, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Sean McKee

I recently acquired an M151A2 and am interested in getting some history on what unit(s) it served in and where. No tac markings that are visible (it was repainted when welded back together) that could help tell the story. All I have is the serial on the data plate.

AM General 74-95012292
Engine looks to be original to the vehicle and is manufactured by Ford Canada (BTW, were the Ford engines in M151A2 CDN painted white? Mine is and just wondering if this is correct to the 74 pattern jeeps.

Unfortunately your serial number does not match any of the Canadian M151A2 vehicles in my database. What is the contract number on your data plate?

Sean McKee · #4 30-05-21, 04:22

Scott, I was up at Brian Asbury’s today and we looked at an original AM General data plate from a Canadian contract M151A2 which was a proper 5-digit serial stamped on the data plate. There is a corresponding Ziebart plate with a 74-9XXXX number that was written on the back, so our assumption is on my jeep is that whoever restored it put on a replacement data plate and used the CFR number as part of a “self-created” VIN in order to register it with the Ministry of Transportation in Alberta or BC.

Is it possible for you to use what I am assuming to be the vehicle CFR (74-95012) to check the database to find the 5-digit serial?

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Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Unfortunately your serial number does not match any of the Canadian M151A2 vehicles in my database. What is the contract number on your data plate?

Ed Storey · #5 30-05-21, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Sean McKee

Scott, I was up at Brian Asbury’s today and we looked at an original AM General data plate from a Canadian contract M151A2 which was a proper 5-digit serial stamped on the data plate. There is a corresponding Ziebart plate with a 74-9XXXX number that was written on the back, so our assumption is on my jeep is that whoever restored it put on a replacement data plate and used the CFR number as part of a “self-created” VIN in order to register it with the Ministry of Transportation in Alberta or BC.

Is it possible for you to use what I am assuming to be the vehicle CFR (74-95012) to check the database to find the 5-digit serial?

Unfortunately the CFR (74-95012) you are hoping to use for your M151A2 was actually assigned to a piece of road construction equipment.

Vik Dulku · #6 23-06-21, 04:47

Hey Ed,

could you do a look up on an Iltis?
CFR is 87666
Unit would be either 1 MP Regt, 15 MP Coy or 12/11 MP PL.

Cheers!

Ed Storey · #7 23-06-21, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Vik Dulku

Hey Ed,

could you do a look up on an Iltis?
CFR is 87666
Unit would be either 1 MP Regt, 15 MP Coy or 12/11 MP PL.

Cheers!

Vik you know as much as I do, your MP Iltis was disposed of from ASU Chilliwack in January 2007.

ED

rob love · #8 23-06-21, 20:02

The VMOs show it was part of 12 MP platoon in the latter part of it's life. Right towards the end it was also sent to the BCDs for a conversion course.

SteveJ · #9 29-06-21, 05:13

Hi guys. looking for some history and information for Canadian Armstrong MTEC 0033

Thanks very much to you folks that do this info gathering for us. It means a lot.

rob love · #10 29-06-21, 17:31

MTEC 0033 is CFR78524. It appears to have spent it's entire service life with 1PPCLI. (June of 86 to Aug of 95).

longbranch · #11 04-11-21, 20:21

86-88187 is the Iltis in question. Tailgate model.

Ed Storey · #12 04-11-21, 21:38

Iltis 88187 ECC 121527 (Military Police version) was in service from April 1987 until it was disposed of from ASU/CFB Edmonton in November 2005.
C-30-109-000/ME-003 Installation Instruction Military Police Kit Installation, For Truck, Utility, Light, 4x4 Military Design, Iltis Canadian was first published in 1986.

Sean McKee · #13 09-02-22, 15:33

Trying again to see if this is a serial number for my M251A2.

I found “42323” on a plate on the transmission, so wondering if that could be it. I know SN should be on the body tub - mine shows 74-95011292 on the tub. You’ve said that number isn’t in the CFR database, but I guarantee that this is a former CF machine.

Could you check to see if 42323 could be the assigned CF serial?

Thanks!
Sean

Ed Storey · #14 09-02-22, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean McKee

Trying again to see if this is a serial number for my M251A2.

I found “42323” on a plate on the transmission, so wondering if that could be it. I know SN should be on the body tub - mine shows 74-95011292 on the tub. You’ve said that number isn’t in the CFR database, but I guarantee that this is a former CF machine.

Could you check to see if 42323 could be the assigned CF serial?

Thanks!
Sean

Unfortunately 42323 does not fall within the CFR range for Canadian M151A2s.

ED