M38 CDN information

[James "Jim" Patterson]

Originally Posted by charlie fitton

Here is a sample of the Canadian ser no, not the best quality, but the shape and pattern work..

The font looks exactly the same if my memory is correct.
Looking at the picture the number is on top of the chassis.

My number is on the side of the chassis near the front passenger RHS wheel

[James "Jim" Patterson]

Right guys an update. Just been over to the lock up now and I was wrong the number is on the drivers side between the grill and the bumper. See pics
In my eyes the 3 looks different I kkow it looks like a light stamp but it looks a diferent font to what I've been shown by another user on here of his CAR number.

Also there's signs of some welding but these don't look structural they look like maybe a bracket was welded on at some time. The chassis number doesn't seem to have any other numbers just those 5.

Also took a picture of the dash.

Please note that I have never drilled any holes on the dash but I have utilised some holes which were there for stuff like horn button and key ignition.
Like I said when I did this vehicle I was 20 so I did what I could without having a lot of knowledge about the vehicle.

Hope these shed some light and await your responce.

Cheers Jim

[James "Jim" Patterson]

It won't seem to let me upload the pics guys what am I doing wrong?

[Grant Bowker]

Check out http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19 The most frequent problem people seem to have is too large a file, either in MB or pixels.

[James "Jim" Patterson]

Won't let me upload the pics guys I'll try on my laptop in a bit

[James "Jim" Patterson]

This is what its saying when i try and upload pics

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Any ideas guys ??

cheers

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by James "Jim" Patterson

This is what its saying when i try and upload pics

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Any ideas guys ??

cheers

Jim,

I suspect your photos are too large. Try reducing them in size.

Owen.

[Owen Evans]

A nice looking M38, from what I can see. Can't tell beyond any doubt if it's US or Canadian though.

Originally Posted by James "Jim" Patterson

Also there's signs of some welding but these don't look structural they look like maybe a bracket was welded on at some time.

I assume you mean the 'half moon' bit of welding on the side rail just behind the front shock mount? Mine has those on both sides (see attached). It's where the front tubular cross member welds to the side rail.

Back to the number stamped into the side rail. You say your M38 had Greek camouflage; could it be that the Greek Army stamped their chassis up with the M38 body number? If so, that number could be your Jeep's original serial number. Possibly. Anyone out there have any experience of Greek Army M38's?

Regarding the dash, do the data plates (between the instrument panel and glove box) fix directly to the dash? Or are they secured to a separate plate which then screws to the dash? This was a mid-production change during the US M38 build, and may help to confirm your M38's origins.

Owen.

[James "Jim" Patterson]

Hi Owen,
when i get it out of the corner of the workshop ill get some more pics.

it has a plate that the data plates go on to and then screw on.
i remember buying all the repro plates as it didnt have any on atall.

it also has a big hole behind the data plates if my memory serves me right which at the time i was told it was to accommodate the arctic heater ???? but dunno if thats true.

ive looked all over and cant see any more numbers and as for the position of it i dunno why its there.
like you say is it a greek army thing as i didnt think the us stamped chassis.

is it just coincidence that the number falls in to the M38 CDN criteria?

thanks for all your help and knowledge

Jim

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by James "Jim" Patterson

it also has a big hole behind the data plates if my memory serves me right which at the time i was told it was to accommodate the arctic heater ???? but dunno if thats true.

That is correct; see attached excerpt from the personnel heater manual. Starting in September 1951, US-built M38's had this hole stamped out in the factory; prior to this, the hole would have to be cut out during installation of the personnel heater.

Owen.

[James "Jim" Patterson]

So what we really need to know now is anyone who's got a Greek m38 has it got a chassis number in the same place.

So is it looking like a US built one with that hole cut out? Or did the m38 CDN s have these too?

Owen your knowledge is very very informative it's been great getting in touch with you.
There used to be a guy near me called Bernard who had a lovely M38 and he was a good friend of both mine and my uncle.

I'll have to try get his number again

Thanks

Jim

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by James "Jim" Patterson

So is it looking like a US built one with that hole cut out? Or did the m38 CDN s have these too?

All the photos of the M38CDN I have seen all have the data plates mounted to a separate steel plate, so I presume they all had the heater hole cut-out?

Owen.