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Old 22-04-20, 21:46
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The bottom image looks like a lions face. I hadn't picked up on Rons post when I said this either
Up by the drivers hatch, see image. Some variation of this? Top one maybe WT?
The carrier TCQL Tons, Hundred weight (cwt = 112lb), Quarters (q=56lb), L = Lb (pounds weight) Simple aye! (for the young people)
If the photo was just that much clearer you could make out the letters. Weigh kind of makes sense but then I wonder why the writing on the right looks to be hand drawn as if it would be replaced with new data from time to time. Weights wouldn't need that. Still, it could be WT, HT, BR, LTH and those were stencilled the same on all vehicles then the particulars for each were chalked on, perhaps for loading on a landing craft.

But I have to chuckle over your carrier example. It almost looks like they went through all the tonnage figures then on the lower right gave up and just conceded that it is "HEAVY".

And it does look like a cat, with a striped tail out the bottom? Is there any divisional flash that looks like that? Was I just assuming this is a Canadian car?

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Old 22-04-20, 22:45
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Bruce, the "Heavy" might be for the lowest common denominator regarding which way it is loaded or by who? There is clarity, so no excuses.. This is a Dunkirk era image (early war)
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Old 22-04-20, 23:07
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Bruce, the "Heavy" might be for the lowest common denominator regarding which way it is loaded or by who? There is clarity, so no excuses.. This is a Dunkirk era image (early war)
Oh, I know it's there and legitimate. I just think, if you indulge your warped sense of humour, it could give you a chuckle (or maybe I've been 'working from home' just a few days more than is good for me). Sort of like:
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Old 23-04-20, 00:26
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Bruce we move to level 3 on Tuesday. Not that things will change much as far as human contact goes. The new cases are continuing to decline, which is a good sign. I see the borders staying closed for quite some time after life goes back to some kind of normal.
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Old 23-04-20, 02:52
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Bruce we move to level 3 on Tuesday. Not that things will change much as far as human contact goes. The new cases are continuing to decline, which is a good sign. I see the borders staying closed for quite some time after life goes back to some kind of normal.
I am in the second hardest hit province in Canada and the best I can say is our rate of increase has slowed. It's taking a devastating toll on our elderly in old folks homes. One of our last remaining local D-Day vets just passed because of it.
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Old 23-04-20, 03:52
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The picture was a posed picture taken in Normandy

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Old 23-04-20, 05:29
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Gentlemen, thanks for all the interest.

The photo is of a Humber IV belonging to the 17th Duke of York's Royal Canadian Hussars (7th Canadian Recce). It is found in the album 75 page 56 entitled Vaucelles France, July 18 1944.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/l...=-1&MaxDocs=-1

The unit's HQ vehicles, as indicated by the tactical marking (though I've yet to decipher the meaning of 11/4 within the diamond) came ashore only July 16. So that would explain some of the typical markings for shipping are still present. 1102/1 is the regiment's mobilization serial.

To the side of the driver's visor, is the weight/measures card that was mandatory to be carried before embarkation. The pertinent info was either chalked or stenciled in place, but the sticker was usually ripped off not long after landing. I've put together a large example here, though the values may not be totally correct as am unfamiliar with weights expressed in imperial tons and cwts.

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Old 23-04-20, 01:18
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But I have to chuckle over your carrier example. It almost looks like they went through all the tonnage figures then on the lower right gave up and just conceded that it is "HEAVY".
Oddly, there are two figures, "Tonnage, Heavy" which is recorded in TCQL at just over 3 1/4Tons, and above that there is "Tonnage, Light" which is strangely listed in Tons, Feet and Inches! This carrier's "Tonnage, Light" is 10 Tons + 6 Ft. Who can explain that? Is it related to the shipping space occupied?
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Old 23-04-20, 02:46
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Oddly, there are two figures, "Tonnage, Heavy" which is recorded in TCQL at just over 3 1/4Tons, and above that there is "Tonnage, Light" which is strangely listed in Tons, Feet and Inches! This carrier's "Tonnage, Light" is 10 Tons + 6 Ft. Who can explain that? Is it related to the shipping space occupied?
Not a clue, maybe they were engenirs. On the other hand forward of that they stenciled on "CARRIER, BREN No.2 Mk.II" just in case the data plate failed you.
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