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Old 01-03-19, 03:05
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Hi Tony,

I see no buttons....?

Seriously,Tony, I'm familiar with the Whitworth & Armstrong systems, but I didn't see any lugs/buttons on the projectile's outer edge that could engage any form of rifling. The caption was quite specific about the development (but of course, we all know how accurate many museum captions really are!)

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Old 01-03-19, 07:52
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Fin stabilization was hardly new, even then. Arrows spring to mind!
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Old 01-03-19, 13:20
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My apologies, Mike. I need to open pics and look closer, or clean my computer screen. While not as large as the big brass pads on British projectiles, I thought I saw small "nipples" or lugs, which I thought were the American version of an experimental round.
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Old 01-03-19, 17:14
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Happens to us all, Tony: I made the same error when I took a quick look at Colin's post on the smoke dischargers - didn't comprehend the scale and assumed (embarrassingly!) that the spent cart was a 12 # not a .303!!

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Old 03-03-19, 22:44
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I think currently all the major powers have smooth bore main armament in many of their tanks ( or are coming in to service) with finned projectiles.

Obviously a finned projectile will absorb a great deal of energy from the fin drag as it spins decreasing velocity and range. A very slow spin can still help stabilize finned projectiles and the current smooth-bore projectiles have the fins very slightly off-set to create a slow spin.

To get no spin or slow spin with finned projectiles with traditional grooved barrels they have "Obdurating Rings" which is a collar that seals the gas but slips on the projectile. There are also various discarding sabot designs that seal the gas but fall off once the projectile leaves the barrel. These are extremely bad news if infantry have close support from tanks firing over their heads!

I believe Mike's projectile would have been shot from a smooth-bore weapon but may be wrong.

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Old 04-03-19, 08:31
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British practice is still to use a rifled gun for HESH projectiles.
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Old 04-03-19, 08:42
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Yes Adrian. The British are unique in having their main battle tank the only one of all the NATO countries to have a rifled barrel.


Here is an interesting discourse on fin and spin stabilised projectiles.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...ets2-types.htm
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