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Old 24-01-19, 07:15
Craig Johnstone Craig Johnstone is offline
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Hi guys here is one of photos I was trying to put up last night.
Plate shows model number and that it was built in Canada. Does anyone on here have any information on the model numbers??

Thanks Craig
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Old 24-01-19, 08:45
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I can't imagine a civilian operator installing the blackout marker light on the mudguard This and the headlight switch having what appears to be a cross bolt lock which would mean the switch was military may give a clue to the origins of the vehicle. The cab is definitely North American, the front bumper is of the heavy military style and the chassis has the riveted plate reinforcement on the side rail common on military trucks but maybe not exclusively so.
Is there a tow hitch on the truck?
Also could you post a photo of a front wheel bearing cover? If it is a pressed steel cup, that is indicative of a light axle, if it is a domed plate held on with six bolts it is a heavy axle.

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Old 24-01-19, 09:36
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Hi guys here is one of photos I was trying to put up last night.
Plate shows model number and that it was built in Canada. Does anyone on here have any information on the model numbers??

Thanks Craig
Mine is also Canadian.These were supplied by GM Canada to Common wealth Countries.GM India sewree plant Bombay assembled these trucks and were used during world war.These were CKD and rest bodies were locally manufactured.I think your one is assembled by General Motors-Holden.


Kindly check the ist two letters of engine serial number you will find this besides distributor mine were TR.R means Right hand drive expert kindly comment Mentioning the pic for reference. Also i here is the link for serial number

http://www.gregwapling.com/hotrod/ch...dian-chev.html


Also here is the manual which i have uploaded on archive.org

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/18/i...20Military.pdf


1 Image: Production facilities at General Motors-Holden's Limited during World War II
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Old 26-01-19, 08:47
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Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge! I have attached a photo of the wheel hub. From hat it looks like it’s a light axle?

Davistine Liddle I will have a look at those links thank you for sharing.

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Old 26-01-19, 14:53
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Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge! I have attached a photo of the wheel hub. From hat it looks like it’s a light axle?

Davistine Liddle I will have a look at those links thank you for sharing.

Cheers Craig
Experts kindly comment by comparing.Can we differentiate the year by seeing hubs..According to my registration booklet it says 1944 Army Disposal (Then Donated by Indian Army to some Technical Institute)but the radiator is of feb 42
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Old 26-01-19, 21:34
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Thanks for the image Davistine, from seeing yours would I be correct in saying that mine is the light axle??

Thanks everyone for the input.

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Old 26-01-19, 21:39
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Mine is also Canadian.These were supplied by GM Canada to Common wealth Countries.GM India sewree plant Bombay assembled these trucks and were used during world war.These were CKD and rest bodies were locally manufactured.I think your one is assembled by General Motors-Holden.


Kindly check the ist two letters of engine serial number you will find this besides distributor mine were TR.R means Right hand drive expert kindly comment Mentioning the pic for reference. Also i here is the link for serial number

http://www.gregwapling.com/hotrod/ch...dian-chev.html

Also here is the manual which i have uploaded on archive.org

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/18/i...20Military.pdf


1 Image: Production facilities at General Motors-Holden's Limited during World War II
I have checked the list on the engine number and it seems to line up. Being match’s to a Right hand drive MCP truck built between 40-41.

So very kool to find out this information.

Thanks Craig
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Old 27-01-19, 00:37
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The hub shown in the post 14 photo is the light axle set up that uses bicycle cup and cone type wheel bearings. This axle is lighter in construction and uses smaller diameter king pins than the heavier axle used on the truck in post 15. The heavier axle has barrel type roller bearings.
I don't know why they persisted in using the lighter front axle under these trucks which were rated at 3 ton in civvy life and often used on poor roads.
Also, you would think that the installation of a two speed diff would indicate your truck was not intended for light work thus worthy of a heavy front axle.
Andrew H mentioned the steering box support bracket. Does your truck have that?
Moulded (non wood) steering wheel and civilian type instrument panel seem to have persisted well into the production of these trucks.

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Old 27-01-19, 03:50
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Thanks Motto.

It doesn’t appear to have the steering column support bracket.

Thanks everyone

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Old 27-01-19, 10:57
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The hub shown in the post 14 photo is the light axle set up that uses bicycle cup and cone type wheel bearings. This axle is lighter in construction and uses smaller diameter king pins than the heavier axle used on the truck in post 15. The heavier axle has barrel type roller bearings.
I don't know why they persisted in using the lighter front axle under these trucks which were rated at 3 ton in civvy life and often used on poor roads.
Also, you would think that the installation of a two speed diff would indicate your truck was not intended for light work thus worthy of a heavy front axle.
Andrew H mentioned the steering box support bracket. Does your truck have that?
Moulded (non wood) steering wheel and civilian type instrument panel seem to have persisted well into the production of these trucks.

David
Thank you David "motto"

Mine is here but i need figure out its year coz there is no data plates no chassis number.Only i figure out that this truck lies between 42-44

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Old 03-04-19, 22:24
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Default Correct on different axle hubs....

I can confirm the difference indicted between the lighter 2 ton axle and the heavier HD axle.... the heavier one as a small hub cap held in place by 3 small bolts....... the lighter axle as a stamped sheet metal cap screwed on.

Now according to the master parts catalogue the lighter bicycle ball bearing axle was used until at least until 1951....... not sure how light/weak it was but was used post war on 2 ton trucks.

The roller bearing equipped axles were commonly referred to as "Timken axles"

I know form experience that the roller bearing will not install in a lighter 2 ton axle..... the roller/Timken is .093 larger both on the axle spindle and in the bearing race that fits inside the hub......

Does anyone have a picture of the HD front axle with the tire removed......very curious about the HUB design and brake drum style.

Would be curious to hear from you if you have looked up a raised casting number on the I beam of your respective trucks....... about the middle of the axle inside the H section of the beam..... as it may give a clue as to the year of the truck.....

for example if it says 3681642 it is 1946 to 51

.....365291 is a 2 ton 1940

the heavy duty roller axle should have 3651011 which denotes the series 18 Chevrolet COE

Let me know if the shoe fits????

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