Canadair Sabre

[Frank v R]

did you get the Log Books?

[Jacques Reed]

Good Day All,

These photos may be of some interest to show the difference between the US and Australian built F86 Sabre jets.

The photo of the Sabre jet on the ground was taken at the Moorabbin Air Museum in the early 90's.

The photo of the F86 on the pylon was taken at Raymond Terrace NSW also in the early 90's. Since then, in 2013 it has been removed to Williamstown for restoration for display at Fighter World.

Both show the single gun ports in the nacelle for the 30 mm Aden cannon as used in the CAC built aircraft and the more substantial nacelle and intake area to accommodate the RR Avon engine.

My apologies for the poor quality scans from 35mm film photos. I thought I had some more taken at Avalon Air show but cannot put my finger on them just yet.

Cheers,

[cletrac (RIP)]

Does it have a radio in it? I have an ARC 502 that came out of a Canadian Sabre jet if you're interested.

[Wayne Henderson]

Hi Hanno, pretty much a static display only, guys who fly old jets have short life spans and expensive parachutes.

The Sabre has been on my list since I saw a few old CAC's back in the 80's and one in Malaysia I enquired about in 1996, North of Johor.
(Gilla Gilla bali kampong Ang mo)

The Canadair Sabre was a later product after the NAA Sabre which was still a very good fighter from what I have read.

As Jacques has stated the Australian CAC version is very different, wider, longer, faster, better guns and most panels are not interchangeable with the F86.

The Canadair Sabre also differs from the NAA F 86 but the panels are interchangeable, wings are kind of the same

The hydraulic system is a nightmare and I need a manual to lock the front wheel in the down position, no safety bolt like the NNA Sabre.

No log books Frank, I believe they may be in New Zealand.

Hi David, This is the radio compartment, the last radio (Fusch?) tray can be seen, ex SAAF.

[maple_leaf_eh]

You will be in rare company with a Sabre.

Mr Michael Potter started and grew a company named COGNOS that IBM bought out for a couple billion dollars. After paying for his divorce, he found himself literally swimming in cash and a love of airplanes. Every one of his aircraft has Canadian service or very strong connections to Canadian aviation. His Vintage Wings Collection is based at the Gatineau, Quebec airport. The clever part of his operation - every aircraft is its own legal corporation. If one plane needs to be sold, it can be wrapped up neatly and cleanly. Similarly, if one goes down or there is an insurance claim. Only that entreprise is effected.

http://www.vintagewings.ca/en-ca/home.aspx

They operate(d) Hawk One which is a Sabre. It is for sale. Maybe as it is being sold, copies of its documentation can be negotiated.

http://rcafassociation.ca/heritage/history/hawk-one/

[Robert Bergeron]

Gents, i flew with Mr Potter on a demo flight once .He let me do a few aileron and barrel rolls and other fun antics in a Harvard . He is a true Canadian patriot . He is devoted and addicted to Canadian military aviation history. He reveres ( and honours ) our Vets . My kinda guy. He did have success in business and it is all to his honour to hang around with mere mortals like me . A good friend of mine ( Ex Snowbird ) was involved in the Sabre program at Vintage Wings and it is a very ( extremely ) expensive crate to operate . Per Ardua Ad Astra .

[Frank v R]

go after the log books , that way the bird has a chance to get back in the air in the future,

[Robin Craig]

What was the relationship between the 30 mm Aden cannon used in the Sabre to the 30 mm Rarden canon used in the CVR(T) vehicles? Is one a genesis of the other?