Canadian Dodge, 3 ton 4x2

[Mike K]

Going off topic but. The two 1941 Plymouth military utes I had and the 46 Dodge ute, all had the 218 motor 3 and 3/8 bore and 4 and 1/16th stroke from memory.

Some of the various Chrylser 6 blocks have the water pump by-pass hole in the block and some don't, in that latter case the by-pass is external. Be aware of this possible hiccup when ordering a head gasket because you can get stuck with a gasket the is useless.

The mid 1950's Australian sedan based utes ( which are unique ) have a 2 and 1/4 short block like a weapons carrier but with an internal water pump by-pass, the head gaskets do not swap over.

I managed to buy some NOS 218 engine parts from Ralph Provan ,he had a garage out near Doncaster , but that was many years ago.

[Kevin Goodwin]

Lang
The truck is the T110 model, the engine number I quoted is cast on the block with no prefix.
Regards the KEW engines I am in the process of trying to find any specialists/groups for those models over here.
Kevin

[Lang]

Kevin

The number you gave is just a casting number for factory use.

The number we need is stamped on the front left of the block on a raised pad.

T110 is the truck model but is also the engine series for your truck.

Lang

[Tony Smith]

And here are examples of KEW and Plymouth numbers:

[Mike K]

To add to the confusion

The 1941 De Soto ute I had, the engine prefix was "SP" from memory . The similar Plymouths were "P" and the Dodge "D" . These utes will be listed in the AWM ARN books as "12 cwt GS Van"

[Lynn Eades]

Mike, De Sotos are all beginning "S" 1941 begins S8S and S8C.
With a 3 7/16" bore the stroke was 4 1/2" to get 250 Cu.in.

For those that might want to know:
Plymouth block serials start with (funnily enough) a P, Dodge with a D, De Soto with an S, Chrysler with a C, and U.S. Military trucks, with a T.
I Don't know about the Canadian ones.

If the number includes a star, I think that indicates U.S. manufacture.

On the smaller blocks, the cars had lighter cranks= less counterweights.
These cranks had 4 or 6 bolts to hold the flywheel on. They are also likely to be shorter stroke. The U.S. military Dodges, T 215 / 214 / 223 all had 8 bolts,and were a 4 5/8" stroke, which were better suited to revving hard.

None of this however, helps Kevin.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

Mike, De Sotos are all beginning "S" 1941 begins S8S and S8C.
With a 3 7/16" bore the stroke was 4 1/2" to get 250 Cu.in.

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The wartime 1941 DeSoto and Dodge utes and scarce sedans assembled here with Richards bodywork were actually all Plymouth's in diguise.

The genuine DeSoto as seen in Nth America wasn't sold here. Instead they imported the el cheapo Canadian Plymouth ( probably as CKD ) and re-badged them as DeSoto and Dodge, the front guards and grills are a giveaway. Hence the odd engine prefix "SP" .

My DeSoto ute in 1981 ( cost me $80 ) with the SP 218ci engine , you can see the Plymouth lines in the guards and grill. Why they bothered to re-badge them is beyond me, they could easily sold them all as Plymouths.