G749 Picture and info thread

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Jon Skagfeld

Re: Dental vans...

There is/was a pristine one in the Base Borden museum.

IIRC, it had plexiglass cover so that the interior could be viewed.

Its CAR was 52-50000.

Jon
I have not been to the Borden museum in at least 25 years, but the few cells of grey matter that still work tell me that 52-5000 was a cargo. It is the kind of number you remember. Also, it is likely that 50000 would be serial no1 (or very close).

A quick google revealed I am right.

[Jon Skagfeld]

Well, Rob, you're absolutely correct about 52-50000 being a cargo with an RCASC unit sign.

I have that exact same picture from the same angle.

WRT to the dental van, I have a shot from behind showing the interior through the plexiglass.

Dunno what got it into my head about the CAR for it because the side shot I have of it shows no CAR at all.

Borden is only ~1 1/2 hrs away...I'll have to slide down some day and refresh my memory.

Apologies to all for posting misleading info.

[jdmcm]

Jon can you post the pictures of the inside of the dental van you have?

Thanks
John

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Jon Skagfeld

Well, Rob, you're absolutely correct about 52-50000 being a cargo with an RCASC unit sign.

I have that exact same picture from the same angle.

WRT to the dental van, I have a shot from behind showing the interior through the plexiglass.

Dunno what got it into my head about the CAR for it because the side shot I have of it shows no CAR at all.

Borden is only ~1 1/2 hrs away...I'll have to slide down some day and refresh my memory.

Apologies to all for posting misleading info.

Not at all Jon....it made me think for a minute.

If you could talk the duty staff into it, how about taking a photo of the serial number plate on 50000?

[Dave D.]

Originally Posted by rob love

Jon
I have not been to the Borden museum in at least 25 years, but the few cells of grey matter that still work tell me that 52-5000 was a cargo. It is the kind of number you remember. Also, it is likely that 50000 would be serial no1 (or very close).

A quick google revealed I am right.

Having truck No.1 in a museum would be nice. Keeping you guys around so we can lock all the history down is better so thanks for the info.

Did Canada's G749 manufacturer stamp each frame consecutively as they came out the door?

The truck on the right is Gizmo the Nov. 22, 1956, M135. 113506074 is stamped in the frame.
Does that mean we had at least 6074 M135's manufactured in Canada?

The middle M135 is Goose, the March 16, 1956 baby with 113504873 stamped in the frame.

Does that indicate Canada built 1,201 M135's in roughly 8 months and 5 days?

My BATUS truck is July 11, 1956 and is stamped 5503. That suggests 630 units from mid March to Mid July, 571 more units to Nov. 22.

I think we need to find the last Deuce we built for a museum project.

[Dave D.]

The M133 Chassis and Cab is as unrecognized as Early Deuce mufflers so we need to tell that story. Is the M133 the cab and chassis they added cranes, augers, spotlights, cages, flying kitchens and other oddities on?

It shows up in the operators manual but I'm sure it has a bigger story?

This one had a box added at some point and is the nicest M133 I've seen.
Need to get to Shilo one day.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Dave D.

Did Canada's G749 manufacturer stamp each frame consecutively as they came out the door?

The truck on the right is Gizmo the Nov. 22, 1956, M135. 113506074 is stamped in the frame.
Does that mean we had at least 6074 M135's manufactured in Canada?

My M135 was made on 23 Nov 1956, and bears serial number 6078.

The history on mine is pretty bland: CFB Calgary until about 1980 and then it went to CFB Winnipeg. I almost suspect it was in war storage at both locations. The truck only had about 23,000 miles on it and never saw camo or a paintbrush.

There were also some US trucks that made it into the Cdn system. I saw the remains of a XM216 with a very low serial number, crossed cannons, and a 1954 Cdn CFR number.

More on my deuce restoration can be seen at this link: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19471

[DanJahn]

After seeing the earlier post with a picture of the operators manual for the 6x6 Canadian GMC I thought i would mention that I have a operators manual dated 1951 CDN-0M9-819A Operators Manual 2 1/2 Ton 6x6 GMC ( Canadian ) . The interesting thing about this manual is that it lists the M218 Light Wrecker Truck but there is no picture of the M218 in the manual. I have been in this hobby for quite some time and have owned a number of The M series GMC 6x6s but this is the only manual that I have seen that mentions the M218. I wish I knew how to post pictures on this site. If anyone is interested I could scan the cover and send it to you.

Dan Jahn

[Dave D.]

Originally Posted by DanJahn

After seeing the earlier post with a picture of the operators manual for the 6x6 Canadian GMC I thought i would mention that I have a operators manual dated 1951 CDN-0M9-819A Operators Manual 2 1/2 Ton 6x6 GMC ( Canadian ) . The interesting thing about this manual is that it lists the M218 Light Wrecker Truck but there is no picture of the M218 in the manual. I have been in this hobby for quite some time and have owned a number of The M series GMC 6x6s but this is the only manual that I have seen that mentions the M218. I wish I knew how to post pictures on this site. If anyone is interested I could scan the cover and send it to you.

Dan Jahn

Well then, we CAN learn something new everyday. An M218 sounds like another truck that could tell a story. Thanks for sharing and I'd save anything you'd provide with a copy for my Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association.
Volume Warning http://civildefencemuseum.ca/

We'll need to poke around for pictures of that truck.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by DanJahn

After seeing the earlier post with a picture of the operators manual for the 6x6 Canadian GMC I thought i would mention that I have a operators manual dated 1951 CDN-0M9-819A Operators Manual 2 1/2 Ton 6x6 GMC ( Canadian ) . The interesting thing about this manual is that it lists the M218 Light Wrecker Truck but there is no picture of the M218 in the manual. I have been in this hobby for quite some time and have owned a number of The M series GMC 6x6s but this is the only manual that I have seen that mentions the M218. I wish I knew how to post pictures on this site. If anyone is interested I could scan the cover and send it to you.

Dan Jahn

Quite often the manuals were slightly modified reprints off the American manuals. After all, why remake the wheel from scratch when you are still going to end up with a wheel? I suspect that is why the Cdn manual has reference to the light wrecker.

[Jes Andersen]

Dave, this is turning into an interesting thread with all the info and photos of our deuces over the years. Its nice to see that some examples have been preserved and that now many are being saved. Here on Vancouver Island, there a few running survivors and likely many wrecks sitting in logging boneyards spread across the north Island and coast. When surplused, many went to logging shows and were worked to death.
Thanks to Rob and everyone else for adding their photos and information. I have a few pictures from years ago that I want to add but my scanner isn't cooperating right now. I'll try again once I figure out why.

[Dave D.]

Originally Posted by Jes Andersen

Dave, this is turning into an interesting thread with all the info and photos of our deuces over the years. Its nice to see that some examples have been preserved and that now many are being saved. Here on Vancouver Island, there a few running survivors and likely many wrecks sitting in logging boneyards spread across the north Island and coast. When surplused, many went to logging shows and were worked to death.
Thanks to Rob and everyone else for adding their photos and information. I have a few pictures from years ago that I want to add but my scanner isn't cooperating right now. I'll try again once I figure out why.

Good reading you Jes, we still need to follow-up the Emergency Management / Civil Defence story on both Civilian and military trucks. Seeing your photos,,,,, once you beat up that scanner, will be a treat. Don't you have a 5 year old or youngster around that can fix electronics?

When the Waynes, Dans and Robs of the World start filling in the blanks, the story only gets better. Being a civilian has it's disadvantages so learning about the military aspect of Early Deuce service is amazing. It's a story that needs to be told, soon. Some of the kids that started driving those Deuces in 1952 could be 83 years old. These guys,,,,,all those who served Canada, are the big reason we're all here talking about it. Thanking our servicemen, never forgetting, is the least we can do and will only get better if we digitize as many stories as possible.

I can, almost without a doubt, (I wasn't there)... testify that I heard,,,,, the owner say, "This truck was part of the recovery of Kosmos 954 when it crashed in 1978."

One day we may confirm this story because we have some evidence. The license plate matched the number stamped into the top of the frame, drivers side behind bumper plate. 53/51732
Passenger frame stamped 113501589

The boys that own this M135 started buying fleets of military surplus vehicles back in the late 70's. They were very clear on the details of it's history.
""It's the M135 Flying Kitchen that started on fire while feeding the Canadian/ U.S. military teams."" Trust, but confirm!

I'll post a link if anyone is interested. Do you think any of boys that spent time picking up radioactive pieces of Soviet Satellite are around to tell the story?
Operation Morning Light

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...morning-light/

"""""Debris was sent to Edmonton and then to Whiteshell Nuclear Research Establishment in Pinawa, Manitoba, for analysis and final storage.""""""