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What a nice stroke of luck for you .
Could he mill some 3/4" planks ? I need them for the CS8 GS project - The body needs a fair amount of wood . What type of wood did you use in the WOT2 body ? What type of timber are you using in the tillies ? Ideally , we want minimum shrinkage over time . I have heard that the exotic Cyprus pine is very stable, the farmers planted rows of them many years ago and around here they have been mostly got rid of for some reason . I used to see huge piles of the stuff burnt, what a waste ![]()
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My budget was a bit tight when I did the WOT. I had selected a heap of 7/8 Baltic pine from a demolition yard until he told me the price. I had to go for cheaper used pine flooring and other assorted pieces for the heavier bearers. The Tilly's are getting KD hardwood. Hardly authentic English oak but it will weather well here.
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I do not know specifically what wood was originally used in the Tillys, but body frames for cars and cabs for lorries were traditionally made from Ash. Sadly due to a disease that spread from the Continent, the Ash trees are dwindling in England now, with a lot having being cut down. Richard
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Was a bit of a guess Richard. I think generally the northern hemisphere timbers are softer than Australian hardwood. When I restorered my Fordson WOT there was one small piece of timber remaining on the body which I tried to match. The only thing I could get on my budget at the time was 7/8" baltic pine from recyclers. It was some ridiculous price being highly prized for heritage building renovation so I opted for cheaper used pine floorboards and other scraps. (bought my own patina)
I had an old retired bloke at the time who milled timber for a hobby and he dressed it all to spec for me. Too many machine shops can't be bothered with us fanatics these days so I was happy to find Nigel at Streamline Timber. Problem these days with the exhorbitant cost of timber is it becomes a very expensive part of a restoration especially with the amount and diversity of sizes in some of the older english vehicles. I think the Ford/Marmon Herrington gun tractor took about over $2000 worth of KD hardwood and I got that milled to spec as a favour. I've also got a timber body to rebuild for my Diamond T in the future!!! ![]()
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1943 Willys MB Willys Trailer 1941 Fordson WOT 2H 1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored) 194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored) 1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration) 1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) 1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) BSA folding bicycle BSA folding bicycle 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored) 1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored) Wiles Junior Cooker x 2 |
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Error on my part. I need 7/8" planks of course . The local cabinet makers could be worth a try but they generally make ..well cabinets and drawers.
Another option is to buy a used power wood planer .. there should be enough planers around . Yes the original 7/8 planks, I have some, are a red/pink hue , looks like a softwood similar to Oregon AKA Douglas Fir . Wonder how they sourced so much timber for building truck bodies ?
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My property was logged for the war effort, the only thing I know about it was Dad told me one of the creek crossings was made for the log trucks during the war.
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1943 Willys MB Willys Trailer 1941 Fordson WOT 2H 1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored) 194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored) 1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration) 1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) 1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) BSA folding bicycle BSA folding bicycle 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored) 1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored) Wiles Junior Cooker x 2 |
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1943 Willys MB Willys Trailer 1941 Fordson WOT 2H 1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored) 194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored) 1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration) 1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) 1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored) BSA folding bicycle BSA folding bicycle 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor 1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored) 1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored) Wiles Junior Cooker x 2 |
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Maybe Canada supplied the Douglas Fir / Oregon / Larch / Cedar as well?
BTW. ![]() ![]() All Pines are soft wood because they do not flower. Your gums (Eucalypts)are hardwoods because they flower (that is where the definition comes from)
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In 1939, widespread bushfires which came to known as the Black Friday Bushfire burnt out large areas of the state. Although it devastated a huge area of forestry, it created ideal conditions for harvesting timber over the next 3 years. In the years 1939-42, Victorian Forests Commission harvested more timber than the 20 years prior or 20 years following. Stands of dead trees were felled wholesale to retrieve the timber before it rotted, free from the entanglements of branches and forest trash, and unencumbered by sustainability requirements, as the forests were decimated. This happily co-incided with a spike in demand for timber for war work, for ammunition packaging, vehicle manufacture, small shipping, etc. |
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Wood Solutions website https://www.woodsolutions.com.au/Woo...mpare-Species/ has a good guide to comparing timber species and their properties.
The site is run by Forest and Wood Products Australia who are a client of mine.
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