1974 Dodge D200 5/4 ton

[Ed Storey]

Here is a rear view of 21853 which was a 1975 D200. I can confirm the images were taken at Rockcliffe.

My records show that DND purchased 213 1974 Dodge D200 1 1/2 ton Trucks. I have photographs of D200s being used as both base and Reserve unit vehicles augmenting the Chevrolet 1 1/4 ton Trucks.

With a VIN I can provide the CFR for the vehicle.

C38-32 1975 Dodge 1½ ton Truck-rear view, 21853 ECC 142106 CFB Rockcliffe, 1981 - Copy copy.jpg

[Jason Ginn]

Thanks Gents! Absolutely outstanding help!

Ed the VIN is W24BE4S143785

Thanks! Again!

[Frank v R]

I remember these trucks , they were all replaced in 1981 by the 1981 Chevy 1 tons 4x4 , 350 with a 4 speed stick, a buddy had one of the Dodges and I owned one of the Chevy 1 tons , both tough trucks the Dodge being more thirsty than the Chev. well Jason is there any hope for that Dodge?

[Jason Ginn]

Originally Posted by Frank v R

I remember these trucks , they were all replaced in 1981 by the 1981 Chevy 1 tons 4x4 , 350 with a 4 speed stick, a buddy had one of the Dodges and I owned one of the Chevy 1 tons , both tough trucks the Dodge being more thirsty than the Chev. well Jason is there any hope for that Dodge?

I hope there is Frank! I must admit that I wasn't looking for it but was looking at something else on the farm. The heavy chassis caught my eye and some snooping paid off!

If all goes well I will have it out of the dirt next week and we will be able to see if the frame is still intact. If so I think it might be saveable. The motor turns over and it was parked 5 years ago when a lock hub blew so fingers crossed!

I must admit it's kinda neat!

[Ed Storey]

Jason: Are you sure about the VIN, it does not match anything I have.

[Jason Ginn]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Jason: Are you sure about the VIN, it does not match anything I have.

HI! Is the format correct and just the last part different or is it a different format?

Have a pic of the door tag and the Registration paperwork and it matches. The truck has the DND Cloth tag on the sun visor. It sometimes has the CFR but it was written in blue pen is pretty faded.

I'll double check everything

[chris vickery]

Nice thing about old Dodge trucks is that your bodywork will be minimal. All the sheet metal is available in repro panels.
As long as the frame is good the rest is a piece of cake.
Mopar engines are still somewhat plentiful and easy to work on.
What was in these trucks for power? Small block/big block?

[Ed Storey]

Jason:

You have a lucky horseshoe as checking through my records a number of the CFRs associated with this vehicle bloc were reused as CF Shipping Containers in 1996, thankfully yours was not one of them.

All I know about the vehicle Dodge W200 W24BE4S143785 CFR 74-21640 ECC 142106 1 1/2 ton Cargo is that it was purchased in 1974 and disposed of out of Ottawa in Sept 1981.

This is a rare military vehicle that has received scant interest and is certainly worthy of being saved and restored as it is an excellent example of the transitional vehicles used by the Reserves and Regular Force in the 1970s and 1980s.

ED

[rob love]

My initial drivers course was on those Dodges along with the Deuce in 1978.

By what I saw, the Dodge Powerwagons were primarily a reserve truck. On replacing the 3/4 ton M37, a good portion of them may well have been used in the Olympics much as the M151A2s were....on the world stage they wanted us to look modern, and not driving 20 year old trucks.

Eventually when the chev 5/4 ton came out, they went to the regular army, while the reserves primarily got the Dodges. The reserves did get the odd 5/4 ton where they required a special platform such as the CPs or line trucks.

If memory serves, there was an ambulance version of the Dodge. While the bulk of the Dodge fleet was replaced by the chev 3/4 ton in 81, the ambulances remained in reserve at air force and militia units until eventually replace by the CUCV fleet around 1986. We still had a Dodge cargo converted into a tow truck when I was in Cypress in 89, but it was de-commisioned and replaced by a Hino that year. I personally removed a lot of the equipment like the Warn winch and moved it over to the Hino.

Funny thing was that while the reserves were getting fresh trucks every 6 or 7 years, the regular force milked along with the 76 5/4 tons from 1974 until almost 94/95. Of course, until the CUCV came along, the commercial trucks the militia used did not have 24 volt capability so things like a heater for the back or a radio could not be powered form the truck.

These commercial fleets were just a cheaper replacement rather than buying a full fleet of expensive SMP (yes, the chev 5.4 was considered a SMP) for both the regular and reserve forces. While that changed somewhat with the LSVW, the reserves did get their silverado milcots instead of G-wagons for the most part.

On a larger size, the same is done today where the International Defense MSVS was the militia replacement for the MLVW, and the regular force was supposed to get their true SMP replacement around the same time. However, with the almost decade long delay in replacing the MLVW, many of the MSVS have migrated over to the regular force to cover until the Mack/Volvos eventually get delivered (2017?)

[Ed Storey]

My records show that 64 D300 Ambulances were purchased in 1975.

1975 Dodge W300 Ambulance 23258 ECC 142119 copy.jpg

[rob love]

A friend bought one of the surplus Dodge Ambulances. Extremely heavy duty truck with, I believe, a Dana 60 and Dana 70 axles. The regular force 5/4 tons always suffered from the light duty Dana 44 front axle, which was more suitable for a Jeep.

[Jason Ginn]

Vincent Tinguley posted these excellent pics on FB of the Dodge Ambulance in Cam!

[maple_leaf_eh]

It is possible Jason's truck is just an ordinary pickup used on base, by the Air Force or CE. Not necessarily green cam in the old days, but brushed on by Bubba long after leaving the service.