Interesting tire

[Tony Smith]

There is also a 9.00-16 desert tire (http://hfxtyre.en.alibaba.com/produc..._for_sale.html), that might be a nice choice for some (ie 11.00-16 for Andrew H).

[Tony Smith]

I wonder if you mix and match tread styles to make the minimum buy for an order (which looks like an amount to fill a 40ft container judging by the minimum of each particular size), or if you have to order the minimum in that tread pattern to start a production run?

[Jes Andersen]

A local importer out here on the west coast brought in a full container of 400 255-100 16 Yellow Sea tires made by the same company. They are tire, tube, flap and a Michelin pattern knockoff. The target market was the Power Wagon crowd and he has sold quite a few although there were apparently some issue with sending the to the US. Last I heard, 'dumping' was mentioned but I haven't kept up with the outcome. I did buy 5 of them for my M37 and have them mounted but not balanced. So far, I'm happy with them, and the rubber doesn't stink like the Princess Auto wheelbarrow rubber tires. Compared to Michelins, they were cheap at $300 each, out the door. I'm sure that left a decent profit for the importer and still was a lot cheaper than the $700 Michelins.

If you can get the pattern you want in a reasonable quantity, I think you would be happy with their product.

[r.morrison]

Gentlemen: Glad I clicked in tonight. I was shopping around for a new set of 900 x 16's for my new HUP ZL, or if the price is right... 2 sets. Now with this entry, I'm just trying to figure out just how much are these costing per unit.
On a side point Chris....I beg to differ. I think a set of 10:50 x 16 STA's on a HUP look super cool. And that's from a 65 year old guy!
Anyways boys.....lets cut to the chase, if we can ALL get our S""T together world wide, I'll see about fronting the money for an order(s). All the ducks would have to be in order and I would not be doing it for nothing. I'm not Santa Claus and I think we had this subject beaten around the bush (or to death) with Wallace Wade Tires out of Texas.
I will work with the "Bargoon King" Rob Love on this project. He would have to do a lot of the back ground work. In as much as language, shipping, contacts etc., I can arrange all of that from Vancouver. I would do my best to arrange shipping to Vancouver (North America) and the possibility of Amsterdam/Rotterdam (Europe) and the UK. The more you order, the more clout you have. Simple....as.....that!
So given the home work to do and the serious commitment from the members....I await to hear from you all.
Cheers....Robert

PS: Rob....my apologies for volunteering your butt into all of this before asking. R

[r.morrison]

Sorry guys...I forgot the lads in Oz and NZ. Robert

[rob love]

Actually rob, I thought you might jump in on this one. You are a businessman situated near the correct port to receive such a shipment, and at the same time I know you like to further the hobby when you can. I don't think anybody else is ready to front the loot for such an endeavor, so to that end I can't see anybody begrudging you if you happen to make a buck or two on the project. Capitalism is what makes North America great.

If their minimum order is 100 or 200, I suspect those would almost all be spoken for just in Canada before they even land. Just as I squirrelled away a spare set of the STAs, I think I would have to squirrel an extra set to go along with the 9 or 14 that I currently need. The museums needs would be much greater, although I would have to see what they would want to spend. There is also Arlon Bauer in Alberta, whose collection likely requires significant quantities as well.

The only thing that would make this whole order better would be if the company could make them so they fit the British (CMP) rims without any cutting of the rubber by the installer. I realize that with some rim slip and fancy techniques, the US style tires can be made to go onto the rims, but what a chore to get them off should a flat develop.

In the 90s, when ferret tires were readily available, I installed plenty of them onto CMP rims. I always liked the look of the correct size and correct tread pattern. Hopefully we can make this happen. Let me know what I can do Rob.

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

There is also a 9.00-16 desert tire (http://hfxtyre.en.alibaba.com/produc..._for_sale.html), that might be a nice choice for some (ie 11.00-16 for Andrew H).

Thanks Tony, but the demand for sand-pattern desert tyres is so small that we could not raise an order for more than a few, and they require a quantity order to keep the price down. Also, I did not see a suitable sand pattern (ie diamond tread) on that website, although I have seen them on other Chinese websites. No harm in dreaming though

[Robin Craig]

No DOT rating does present some problems doesn't it or don't the rest of you care about that detail?

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

No DOT rating does present some problems doesn't it or don't the rest of you care about that detail?

There was a brand called Simex that made 10 ply copies (the exact molds perhaps?) of 'Dunlop Track Grip' S-pattern tires and the tires mentioned here may be a cousin of that brand.

Actually I don't care about DOT rating. For licensing and road driving I of course will run safe, DOT approved legal tires, but I would also have a set of these on rims for when showing the vehicle it its most authentic form matters. If somebody found new made 9.00x16 chevrons I'd be all over them DOT or not.

[rob love]

Company claims on their website that many of their tires will be DOT marked.

Bruce: It sure looks o
like the Simex to me, or the old Dunlop TrakGrips. Whatever the case, I hope this deal comes to fruition. Nothing finishes off a restoration like a correct set of skins or ruins it like a set of modern radials.

[Ryan Harriman]

Originally Posted by rob love

Company claims on their website that many of their tires will be DOT marked.

Bruce: It sure looks o
like the Simex to me, or the old Dunlop TrakGrips. Whatever the case, I hope this deal comes to fruition. Nothing finishes off a restoration like a correct set of skins or ruins it like a set of modern radials.

They told me that these particular tires aren't DOT marked. I have a sample tire coming. If they are of good enough quality I'll bring in a containers worth if you guys don't.
Ryan

[r.morrison]

Gentlemen: A lot of interest and worth while comments have been shown since Rob posted this entry. I will be in contact with the factory this weekend to get all the poop. And your concerns are well taken. Tony brought forth some interesting facts that I remember, when doing business in Oz. All of Tony's concerns will be considered. And the fact that Ryan has ordered in a sample, would help to show all of us what exactly we are buying. DOT or no DOT...we'll get that confirmed in writing. As far as outside groups... "Ferret Groups" etc. getting on board, personally I don't have a problem with that The choice in this case is yours....buy or not to buy! DOT or No DOT. Your choice.
In as much as pricing, I'll see what I can do from my end for Canada/USA, but keeping in mind the rest of the world. If anyone would like to volunteer to be the country contact, please let me know. I know it would be very helpful for the pricing.
Hoping this all goes "according to Hoyle"...Robert

[Ryan Harriman]

I've already confirmed with the factory that they have no DOT rating. I pm'd you my cell number Robert, give me a call on the weekend.

Ryan

Originally Posted by r.morrison

Gentlemen: A lot of interest and worth while comments have been shown since Rob posted this entry. I will be in contact with the factory this weekend to get all the poop. And your concerns are well taken. Tony brought forth some interesting facts that I remember, when doing business in Oz. All of Tony's concerns will be considered. And the fact that Ryan has ordered in a sample, would help to show all of us what exactly we are buying. DOT or no DOT...we'll get that confirmed in writing. As far as outside groups... "Ferret Groups" etc. getting on board, personally I don't have a problem with that The choice in this case is yours....buy or not to buy! DOT or No DOT. Your choice.
In as much as pricing, I'll see what I can do from my end for Canada/USA, but keeping in mind the rest of the world. If anyone would like to volunteer to be the country contact, please let me know. I know it would be very helpful for the pricing.
Hoping this all goes "according to Hoyle"...Robert