1944 C-15A-Wire-5 Restoration

[Robert Bergeron]

Friends,

Thank-you all your comments.

Picture 1 : The absolute necessity if you want to restore a Wire 5 box : The Wireless Set Canadian No 19 installation instructions for TRUCK and ground station. It contains specific information for the HUP and the 2G1, 2G2 and 2K1 setups. Thanks Jon Skagfeld.

Picture 2 : The absolutely sublime diagram of the Wire 5 box radio setup. Sketch credit Louis Meulstee.

Picture 3: A very special Wireless 19 control box that is sure to bring up interest with my Sherman owner friends . I found it today in my stuff doing inventory for the Wireless 5 box. Q. Was it ever used in the UC Mk 2 , the 5 cwt Scout Car ( Jeep ) or the Wire 5 box ? As you here know , Wireless 38 sets were carried in armour to communicate with the infantry supporting the armour ( or the reverse ? ) .

This restoration is going very well. I have inventoried my Chorehorses , spare parts for same ( thanks Brian Asbury ) and original Chorehorse parts boxes complete with 3 language Foreign Aid logo ) . Good to go on that aspect.

I also inventoried my spare parts and accesssory inventory for the wireless 19 setup. Good to go .

Q. I have complete and standard No 19 sets on No 23 Carriers and a complete Canadian High Power suite. Should i go standard 19 or go for the High Power setup if i want to represent a Sherbrooke Fusilier ( 27th Armoured Regt ) radio truck in the winter of 44-45 Holland theatre of war ? Or, it would represent higher up in the COC like a Brigade HQ or maybe the whole Armoured Div ? I know the Sigs trucks belonged to Sigs units.So my questions are not about the markings but about the radio equipment carried in the box.

I am open to comments , suggestions and remarks. Make my education on Sigs. Reminder, my roots are not in the Sigs field , but i am willing to learn ( .)

Remember : Holland / Germany Jan-Feb - Mar 1945.
Thanks .

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Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Friends,

Thank-you all your comments.
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Q. I have complete and standard No 19 sets on No 23 Carriers and a complete Canadian High Power suite. Should i go standard 19 or go for the High Power setup if i want to represent a Sherbrooke Fusilier ( 27th Armoured Regt ) radio truck in the winter of 44-45 Holland theatre of war ? Or, it would represent higher up in the COC like a Brigade HQ or maybe the whole Armoured Div ? I know the Sigs trucks belonged to Sigs units.So my questions are not about the markings but about the radio equipment carried in the box.
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Remember : Holland / Germany Jan-Feb - Mar 1945.
Thanks .

As a former Sherbrooke Hussar which perpetuates the Sherbrooke Fusilier Regiment's armoured traditions, you can guess my vote. More to the point, 2016 is the 150th anniversary of the Sherbrooke Hussars (in the name of all its predecessors). Another Signals van will mean little except to a signaller; a marked SFR sigs' van will have a whole lot more resonance. (Just imagine parking your 5-Wire next to Sherman Tank 'Bomb' - reuniting two old war horses.)

[Robert Bergeron]

Affirmative Terry .

It will be parked side by side with our dear Sherman nicknamed ''The Bomb '' next year .

It is marked to the 53 rd in the 5 th A Div.

But the question was : What goes inside, a standard no 19 set or a High Power version ?

It is very much a Sigs question.

Merry Christmas Terry .

[Chris Suslowicz]

If you don't need a hardcopy manual, you can get PDF format ones (they do require Acrobat Reader 10 or later) from the (UK) 19 set group:

Doc 340
Wireless Set No.19 (Cdn) Installation Instructions for Truck and Ground Station, Sep 1943

Doc 573
Wireless Set No.19 (Cdn) Canadian EMIE Elect L169, Installation Instructions WS19 Truck Utility, Quarter Ton M38-M38A1

Doc 331
Wireless Set No.19 MK II (Cdn) Installation Instructions for WS19 MK II CDN in Armoured Scout Car - Ford Canadian Ref No PC764716-192 Jul 1942

Doc 575
Wireless Set No.19 Mk II Installation Kit M4 Medium Tank 76mm, Parts list & Standard Kit List, Less Tubes and Instruction Book, Comp WS19, PSU & Variometer diagrams, Zenith Radio Corporation

Doc 629
Wireless Set No 19 All Marks (US) Document kit for installation in T26-E1 Pershing heavy tank, 1944

Doc 669
Carrier Universal, Mk I (Canadian) Carrier Universal, Mk1 (Canadian) for use with Wireless Set No. 19, Nov 1942

http://www.royalsignals.org.uk/index.html#info

(Disclaimer: I'm one of the moderators/admins of that group.)

Chris.
p.s. Don't bother with the Pershing since the war in Europe ended before it entered Commonwealth service. There were trials versions only, I believe. (Bovington has one.)

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks a lot Chris.

I will look it up.

Anybody on this frequency can please give me the exact dimensions of the wireless table that goes in this particular truck in need of a period correct table ?

So if you haven't read all the previous treads , it's a 2K1 box of 1944 by Wilson .

I guess i will have to reproduce the table.

Many thanks.

Cheers.

[Robert Bergeron]

Found a couple of storage boxes this week end that will go very well in the Radio box to store spare parts and antenna gear .

As a matter of fact i was able to tuck away neatly all the clutter in the larger box ( picture to follow ) .

[Robert Bergeron]

Here we go.

The wireless parts box is full of parts , ready for the final stages of the restoration.

[Robert Bergeron]

Gents,

Here is what goes in a Wire 5 - 2K1 box . A lot of wireless equipment.

Not visible but stored elswere on the truck are the 20' and 34' masts. The horizontal antennas. The antenna leather bags and all the guy wires. Field phones (4) and telephone wire carrier ( 1/2 mile ) .

The spare parts box for the no 19 set containing fuses , springs and the morse key is on the shelf on the left side next to the Remote Unit .

Also not visible, the Canadian CH-300 Chorehorses ( 2)

Visible in the picture : The remote units ( 2) , the satchel signals ( 3) , the headsets ( 3) the complete and working No 19 set with control box on the carrier . The no 19 HP Amp and tuning set will go in when the table is installed.

The spare parts chest and tool box. The no 9 antenna base ( 1) for the ''A'' set with the ''F'' rods ( 4) antenna. The no 8 antenna bases (2) with connectors . The ''G'' antenna for the no 8 base and ''B'' set.

The spare tubes box for the no 19 set is on the large spares box.

We also see the No 5 Canadian Charging panel for ground operations.

A Canadian vehicule map case on the left , hanging from the wall .

The installation instructions for ''Truck and ground operations '' dated 1944 are on the front wall behind the no 19 set.

All ready to be installed and operated as soon as i can find the wireless table or reproduce one. Could somebody give me the dimensions please ?

Have i missed somthing from the CES ( complete equipment schedule ) kit ?

A lot of work to collect everything.

[super dave]

So are you referring to this table ??