Selling Personal Collections

[maple_leaf_eh]

I can think of a handful of service members who have been released in disgrace and had their CDs recovered - the senior officer and the junior officer mentioned, and an intelligence analyst. Just recently a female Air Nav' got court martialed for wearing unearned awards, which cost her the OMM and other punishments. But what about the other hundreds of service men and women who get into trouble with the law every year? Don't convicted drunk drivers, shoplifters, and assailants also bring disrepute upon the Forces? Shouldn't they have their long service good conduct medals pulled too?

Bob mentioned above that what the Queen gives, she can take away. By that definition, wouldn't medals be an in-their-lifetime temporary loan, with the return spring taking effect upon death?

[Dianaa]

Just to touch on the issue of revoking military medals, the only medal that can't be revoked is the Victoria Cross. While a VC recipient from the second Afghan War (and WWI) Pte. James Collis, was awarded the VC, he later had it forfeited because of bigamy. After a petition to King George V the award was restored after James Collis VC died.

The King proclaimed at the time "No matter the crime committed by anyone on whom the VC has been conferred, the decoration should not be forfeited. Even were a VC recipient to be sentenced to be hanged for murder, he should be allowed to wear his medal on the scaffold.”

[rob love]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I can think of a handful of service members who have been released in disgrace and had their CDs recovered - the senior officer and the junior officer mentioned, and an intelligence analyst. Just recently a female Air Nav' got court martialed for wearing unearned awards, which cost her the OMM and other punishments. But what about the other hundreds of service men and women who get into trouble with the law every year? Don't convicted drunk drivers, shoplifters, and assailants also bring disrepute upon the Forces? Shouldn't they have their long service good conduct medals pulled too?

Bob mentioned above that what the Queen gives, she can take away. By that definition, wouldn't medals be an in-their-lifetime temporary loan, with the return spring taking effect upon death?

Here is the link to the official answers that you seek. http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-pol...-01/ch-18.page

Section 4 covers forfeitures. As always when reading regulations (and drill manuals), note the difference between shall and may.

Nothing there about the return of any of them upon death.

[Bill Alexander]

Bringing this back to the collection in question, I have downloaded the catalogue. Some lots are questionable, and I would be very careful if considering bidding. The 1 Cdn Par lot 244 is one I would cite as questionable. Note the auctioneer says the insignia is not guaranteed. Many other lots need to be carefully studied.

[Robert Bergeron]

Dianaa,

You are a gem !

What a nice find.

The King can do no wrong !



Robert

[Robert Bergeron]

Rob, thanks that's the right reference concerning forfeitures.Well done.

The King or Queen may take back what she / he has given as a service medal or award.

What military members should remember is the old adage : Don't do the crime if you ( don't want to do the time ) want to keep your medals !

Robert

[Ed Storey]

It looked to me like the thread flowed in the direction that it took.

[Ed Storey]

No, I am not in grade school and neither do I hide behind a pseudonym when I post. So much for your integrity and respect when posting.

What has me baffled is why you are so passionate about the post. As I said previously, it looked to me like it flowed in the direction that it did rather then some person with only four posts to his 'name' coming in and with a fair bit of arrogance try to reroute it.

[Robert Bergeron]

Ah, gosh. OK i' ll stay on.



Robert

[peter simundson]

Robert Please reconsider your decision to leave the Forum.

You are a valued member and your contributions are well considered

and I enjoy reading them. Your posts on vehicles are genuine concerns

that tackle serious issues. Please think about it.

Peter Simundson CD