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Old 18-08-14, 21:08
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Philip, Here is the tray your tray sits on, I have two originals here.

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Old 18-08-14, 21:18
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Thanks for that Ben. That makes me happy again.

Kevin I believe Philip is talking about the frame that sits on top, with a leather strap. It was part of the frame assembly even if not used. One part of the PSU was laid down in this frame, whilst the main frame was concertinaed up where a shorter installation was required. Ron
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Old 18-08-14, 21:31
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You are quite right Ben. I should have looked through my archive photos.
Here is an installation in a British 8cwt truck. (flat end panels)

Also a shot of my frame from when it was manufactured. You can see the square frame on top. Also the rubber pads below the top rails and the canvas covered pads under the bottom rails. Ron
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Old 18-08-14, 21:38
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Ron, Philip wants details of the carrier tray as I understand his is destined for a carrier installation. Do you happen to have anymore pictures of the 11 set installed in any vehicle, base station ?.

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Old 18-08-14, 21:49
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OK Kevin. The way I read Phillips post, he is missing the top PSU frame. I'm behind on where he intends to install it.
The only pictures I have are in this series of 8cwt installation. Same thing just slightly different angles from the one I posted.

I don't know about carriers. But vehicles seem to have the same metal/rubber feet as a 19 set.

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Old 19-08-14, 12:12
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Guys, The material for making the tray am I correct in thinking the end plates and cross channels are all aluminium ?, with steel plates rivited where the holding thread fixings attach, as per drawing below, as the threaded stud is welded here ?.

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3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 19-08-14, 12:28
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Guys, The material for making the tray am I correct in thinking the end plates and cross channels are all aluminium ?, with steel plates rivited where the holding thread fixings attach, as per drawing below, as the threaded stud is welded here ?.

Kevin.
i will take some pics for u ........ the frame is steel.. the aust one..the uk made frame is alu i think
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Old 04-09-14, 12:10
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I have finished most of the plugs, and will finish fitting the brass inserts to my set. I will provide a drawing of the brass inserts for the 10 pin and 3 pin plugs.

What I have available for whoever needs them is two sets of plugs, which consist of 2 ten pin plugs and 4 three pin plugs. They come without brass inserts and the lid to body gasket/spacers which I will provide a drawing of. These are exact copies as pictured.

They were not cheap to make and a set will cost £70. Please email me if interested in a set.

I have not made any of the two pin plugs.
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3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 04-09-14, 12:13
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3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 04-09-14, 12:16
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3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 05-09-14, 03:54
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I have finished most of the plugs, and will finish fitting the brass inserts to my set. I will provide a drawing of the brass inserts for the 10 pin and 3 pin plugs.

What I have available for whoever needs them is two sets of plugs, which consist of 2 ten pin plugs and 4 three pin plugs. They come without brass inserts and the lid to body gasket/spacers which I will provide a drawing of. These are exact copies as pictured.

They were not cheap to make and a set will cost £70. Please email me if interested in a set.

I have not made any of the two pin plugs.
Looking very nice ! can you tell us the manufacturing process ? How were they made ? Mike
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Old 05-09-14, 04:20
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Hi Mike, A model making guy made an individual mould for each separate component from the originals, he then resin cast each part, the pouring points were then filed off (located on the inside of the lids and plug upper body).

The plug pin holes were individually drilled also the lid screw retaining holes drilled and taped.

They were then glass bead blasted all over and painted with a plastic high gloss paint to replicate the Bakelite.

Very hard to tell from an original.

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1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
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10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 20-08-14, 14:16
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Thanks Ron and Kevin,

The lower frame in the carrier - I assume that this is sitting in a Mk1 carrier?. I'll have to do more research to see what the configuration looked like in the LP2a.

Ron, is the small frame made out of angle or was it pressed? Can you take some measurements?

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Old 20-08-14, 15:10
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Mike, In reference to your post #35.
The magnet test might surprise you. I believe a magnet sticks to Ali-bronze.
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Old 20-08-14, 20:31
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Phillip this is how mine is. 1/16" mild steel plate folded with a slight radius corner to form a 1" x 1/2" angle which are welded at the corners. The outside measurements are 10 1/2" long x 8 9/16" wide. The pictures should help see the cut outs for the leather strap.

I have seen the Blandford British 11 set which is one of only two I've ever seen in about 15 years or more. The musem is only 15-17 miles from me. So if no succes I can go and take pictures. I know the curator Adam Forty quite well, but whether he'd let me inside the glass case?????? Ron
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Old 20-08-14, 21:26
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There's a lot of work in making the 11 frame. It needs to be able to change position depending on fit and the pressed holes still all line up and keep the frame square. There's rivets, press tools, folding, machining and welding. 15 separate parts for one frame from memory.
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Old 10-10-14, 09:50
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Kevins plug turned up today.

I would challenge anyone to pick it from an original save for its brand new appearance. Many thanks for that Kevin and also for the very detailed drawings .

You are a champ no doubt about it !!!!
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Old 10-10-14, 10:21
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Kevins plug turned up today.

I would challenge anyone to pick it from an original save for its brand new appearance. Many thanks for that Kevin and also for the very detailed drawings .

You are a champ no doubt about it !!!!
Thanks Gina, I haven't forgot about photographing the frame carrier drawing to send. Will do it this week.

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3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 15-10-14, 13:31
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Here is the 11 carrier ready for painting, one painted it only requires the padding and a couple of missing thackery washers.

Thanks to all those that made the project possible.

Gina, I have sent photos of the drawings.

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1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Old 15-10-14, 14:42
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Here is the set fitted.
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1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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