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Old 27-03-14, 11:02
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Peter,

Congrats on the purchase! Great to see another Lynx coming back from the dead.

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Old 02-04-14, 03:11
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Folks,

She's slowly sharing her secrets. I have all the exterior soft skin components removed, tagged and stored. Next step will be to access the engine compartment and remove the engine.
It appears that the original paint colour was desert sand before being painted Khaki green. The lettering 13-C was apparently hand painted on the desert sand before the Khaki green.
Did any Canadian units use Lynx's with the desert sand colours? Apparently the New Zealand forces used Lynx's in Italy?

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Old 02-04-14, 03:48
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Peter,
if you are in need of any nickel welding rod to put that armour back together just let me know. I have several pounds laying around that I may be inclined to donate to such a deserving project.
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Old 03-04-14, 02:11
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Chris,

Thanks for the offer. When it comes to the welding, I'll be entrusting that to someone far more professional than myself.

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Well Peter, the offer is open. Even a professional will need rod to weld up that armour and it will be expensive as they will probably want to use Ni-rod. Not sure how general purpose mild steel rod will work with armour plate...
The other issue for sure will probably be the fact they will want to preheat the areas prior to welding to ensure sound welds that will be crack free.
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Old 03-04-14, 03:18
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Well Peter, the offer is open. Even a professional will need rod to weld up that armour and it will be expensive as they will probably want to use Ni-rod. Not sure how general purpose mild steel rod will work with armour plate...
The other issue for sure will probably be the fact they will want to preheat the areas prior to welding to ensure sound welds that will be crack free.
There might also be a problem that if the existing weld is not very clean the old weld rod (nickle) may not mix well with whatever new rod is being used.
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Old 03-04-14, 03:44
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If I was doing this up, I would probably look at sandblasting everything bare even before attempting welding her back up. Another key thing about a reweld job like this is to also take into account the gap or amount of material that was torch cut out or that needs to be removed to facilitate decent welding and to allow for this when welding the frame back as well.
What I am getting at is that you need to keep the mounting holes aligned between frame vs body as it would be quite easy to stretch or shrink the overall dimensions on one or the other.
I would be inclined to make the body fit together really nicely and then the frame can be adjusted to match and be unseen.
Should the weld gap end up being too large to effectively weld in a couple passes, the welder can always affix a backer plate on the inside which can be cut off afterwards. A large gap like this can be filled by "weaving" the weld or layering in multiple passes.
Considering the fact that they left the escape hatch uncut, it provides a great reference for how close the two halfs of the hull should be for welding.
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Old 03-04-14, 03:48
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There is, of course, the well known fact that the Canadian 5th Armoured Division inherited a great deal of ex 8th Army desert vehicles once it deployed in Italy late 1943. Many crapped out sand coloured vehicles found their way into Canadian hands so a desert coloured Lynx attached to a 5th Div. unit (say Lord Strathcona's Horse, 8th Hussars or British Columbia Dragoons) would be out of order.
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Folks,

She's slowly sharing her secrets. I have all the exterior soft skin components removed, tagged and stored. Next step will be to access the engine compartment and remove the engine.
It appears that the original paint colour was desert sand before being painted Khaki green. The lettering 13-C was apparently hand painted on the desert sand before the Khaki green.
Did any Canadian units use Lynx's with the desert sand colours? Apparently the New Zealand forces used Lynx's in Italy?

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Old 03-04-14, 05:25
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MMM, desert sand 8th Army. Sexy.
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1943 Converto Airborne Trailer
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Old 03-04-14, 23:00
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Peter,

I looked at the picture of the fuel tank. I think I might have one here at the shop. It was in with a bunch of old CMP parts and pieces. Can anyone tell me what the dimensions are? I might even have the fuel tank brackets!
Cheers - Richard
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Old 04-04-14, 02:42
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Richard,

Great news. I trial fitted a CMP tank, which had the fittings in the wrong locations, and it fit nicely. The dimensions are 10" x 12" x 32". The brackets would be most welcome as well. I have sourced a second tank, thanks to some fine networking with MLU members. MLU has a serious number of knowledgeable and generous members.

Sounds as if we'll be doing some trading. Thanks again, Peter. Won't even matter if I end up with two tanks for the same side. I've already got a fine example of how to convert one.
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Old 05-04-14, 03:22
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Folks,

Removed the tail piece today, to expose a strange looking radiator. I can just hear the Ford engineers when they were mocking up the first units. "Need to provide a way to hand crank the engine? Radiator in the way? Just go through it!!"

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Old 03-08-14, 14:38
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Good luck on your project Peter !

Not too many of those around !



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Old 13-08-14, 05:43
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Folks,

Got to spend some time in the garage and got the last wheel assembly apart. Great condition, just like the others. Looks as if a rebuild kit for the wheel cylinder and new grease for the bearings is all that's required.

Since this is a "ground up" restoration, I've now started to scope out tires. I understand getting the chevron pattern in 9:00 by 16' is impossible and I'm not a great fan of the NDT, which I have on my Power Wagon. I have heard that the tires for the Ferret are compatible.

I would welcome any suggestions or comments.

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Old 13-08-14, 08:40
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so far as welding mild steel on armor ....it cracks off easily so the Ni Rod offer is a good one

So far as sand blasting ...I am against it unless extreme rust is the issue. All blasting removes original paint. I prefer to spot treat rust and paint over old paint so its still there.

Original paint on WWII vehicles is extremely rare. For my own tank I have only ever over painted so I have been able to go back and rub down to discover original markings , camo schemes and colours.

I am happily in the same position with my FGT #9 . Blast it off and its gone forever...no possibility of future research.
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Old 13-08-14, 15:04
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Peter, if the Lynx is as common to the Ford cmp as I think, the wheel cylinders are an of the shelf item. I will look around to see if I can find my cross reference to the modern numbers. I also have the master cylinder number as well if it is the same. Does the Lynx use a Hydroboost?
I found when I did the first CMP truck which was a Ford that many parts were still available as they were common off the shelf items when the War broke out, borrowed from their civilian predecessors.
I found though to research the crossover parts that I needed to go to an old time auto parts store where they actually still use catalogs and not computers to check. The catalogs will show pictures with sizes etc of the components. If memory serves, the Ford CMP brake system was listed under 2 ton commercial truck 1940s-50s.
I also found Mac's Antique Auto in NY to be quite helpful as well.
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