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Old 10-03-14, 12:41
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Thirty of the squad were Canadian. many were pilots, 14 killed in the raid. In history books, many actions are attributed to British, when Commonwealth personnel were the ones involved.
The Great Escape (anniversary March 24-25) for example was a mostly Canadian affair, with no Americans involved.
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Old 11-03-14, 02:26
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Marc, you touched upon the fact that many of these warriors were merely kids. They say the average age of a combatant in WW2 was 26 and in Vietnam it was 19.
There were many who fit the 17 to 20 year old range in WW2. I cannot even imagine trying to put todays youth into the time machine and compare them. It was indeed a different time.
I am a huge U-Boat enthusiast among my interests in things military. The youngest U-Boat Captain was only 20! Imagine going to sea with a kid in charge?
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Old 12-03-14, 22:50
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Very interesting film. Interesting to see what and how much wireless/electronics gear was added to the aircraft as the war progressed. Also noticed the RCA AR88 Comm receiver in use at the base in one shot.

The other thing that I did not realize was how incredibly unprotected the crew of the Lancaster was in combat. Only one small armour plate to protect the pilot's head! That it even worse than the B-17 (not by much) where the ventral gunner was the luck one to be enclosed in an armoured ball turret.

Technically speaking for either aircraft, an enemy aircraft coming straight astern, with a well aimed burst of gunfire could take out the tail gunner and place a stream of lead down the full length of the fuselage with little to stop it.

They talk of the 70 odd thousand Bomber crew killed during the war. I wonder what percentage of them were killed in aircraft that actually made it home? One tends to assume they would all have died in aircraft shot down. We look at the actions of World War One where commanders sent unprotected infantry against machine guns again and again and think how terrible that was and if they had to do it again the commanders would do a better job. Move ahead to WW2, go into the air instead of fighting on the ground, and it seems the commanders didn't really get the message.

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Old 13-03-14, 00:12
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Unfortunately there were probably many cases of planes coming home with bodies on board. Anthère thing i cant imagine. That was an amarinage generation
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Thirty of the squad were Canadian. many were pilots, 14 killed in the raid. In history books, many actions are attributed to British, when Commonwealth personnel were the ones involved.
The Great Escape (anniversary March 24-25) for example was a mostly Canadian affair, with no Americans involved.
Coincidence...I just got the book "The Great Escape" by Ted Barris. Inset map of Stalag Luft III shows the tunnels identified as Tom, Harry and George. Dick only ran from one hut to another hut from which Tom could be accessed. A totally Canadian operation since the American south camp abuttedt he Canadian north compound.

Apologies for the minor sidetrack, but I also watched that documentary of the Lancaster crew. I had no concept of the background planning and briefings involved.
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Great book, amazing just how many Cdns were involved. I interviewed Ted Barris at length last week, very nice guy
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