Heads Up: Restored C-60L Cab13 For Sale

[Robert Bergeron]

Grant / Rob,

I don't remember where i read this but Grant you are right , the Australian contract trucks did have rims for the 16'' tires.

I have visited and ridden in this beautiful truck and it is a gem, a museum piece for sure but also a day to day driver.It is pristine.

No relation whatsoever with the seller whom i know and is a really great guy.

Grab it while you can.An opportunity like this passes once in a lifetime.

I am into 15 cwt trucks. Just bought a second one.So this one is not for me.

[Andrew]

an asking price would be nice

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

I don't remember where i read this but Grant you are right , the Australian contract trucks did have rims for the 16'' tires.

Could there be any connection with these trucks? I wonder if it was done to lower the gearing, I believe these radar trailers were extremely heavy.

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MOOREBANK, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA. 1944-07-31. TRUCK "C" AND TRAILER "B" (ZP1), RADAR VEHICLES AT NO.3 SUB DEPOT, 5TH BASE ORDNANCE DEPOT.

[Bob Carriere]

Over the years I have kept a visual record of the various ID tags either seen or posted by others.

Low and behold I have that ID tag in my photolibrary BUT no caption of who or where.....still scratching my head.

Grant is correct in saying that we have seen a number of them from the Aussie contract..... we speculated that the contract ended when the conflict ended and these Aussie trucks were disposed on Canada.

Some have round roof hatches some don't.

They are all built on the smaller power train of the C15a with the same gear ratio...straight off the inventory shelf.

Steering box is also C15a.

Typically 2 speed T case and brake boosters.

We have also found sufficient examples of them built with either the 1940 Civilian rectangular instrument cluster or the later round dial. From the dates I have seen they range from April 44 to at least late September 44 possibly October 44 some just a day apart.

These are the occasions where I miss having David Hayward in the background to help us out.

It is a fine example of a job well done!!

Bob C

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Richard

That is definitely one fine looking truck, hope it finds a home with some one that will really appreciate it.

Now to my heading "Count the Lug Nuts" by my count there are eight which should be the same as the 20". (HUPs have 6).

To improve the road speed of my `41 C60L which had the 16" rims I installed a set of 20" so that I could run 11:00x20 tires. So if any perspective buyer is concerned about the road speed issue that is the easy fix. But the 16" rims have the advantage of letting the truck fit into a smaller garage.

Unfortunately you can not put the 16"s on a regular C60S or L with the larger brake drums and front end knuckles.

Keep us posted.

Cheers Phil

[Gerry]

First off I want to thank Richard for posting my C60L.
I have more pictures, icluding the restauration, and I am ready to negotiate with anyone who is serious. I also have a spare engine, the original 216 which ran well, and a spare front axle. The truck has a fully rebuild 261 with only a few hundred miles on it and runs great. It has the vacuum assisted brakes which really makes a difference. Nothing was cut or damaged in replacing the engine as the 261 has the same foot print as the original.
You can reach me at 450-539-4172 or at Townshippers@aol.com
Might entertain trades as part of a deal.
Cheers,
Gerry

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Gerry

A Pat 13 C60L with a 261 engine should make this one great truck to drive. My Pat 13 Radio truck became a real pleasure to drive when I put a 261 in. Make it so much more comfortable to drive one the roads today. Will hold speed with traffic and you are not going crazy down shifting on steep grades.

The brake booster also help make this a real drivable truck.

The 261 with the running 216 as a spare that was good thinking.

Again hope it finds a good home.

Cheers Phil

[Marc Montgomery]

Robert you should have bought mine..It was complete, and an original and extremely rare winch model.. and a beauty driver.. drove it back and forth to Ottawa a few times.. and went on the Belgian tour too. It had a 235.. the minimun you'd want.. I would have put a 261 in it if I had had the time, and money. Unfortunately I sold it, to out west..

It was also a PE-197 (1944) but with its orig 20in rims. and it was destined for a radar train which fits as it had an REL tag in the cab, and the winch. It was certainly not built with C-15 parts.

Also original square hatch, not round, and the later spare tire carrier. The truck was original having been purchased from the military directly to the small town municipality, where it spend most of its decades of service, inside the fire hall.
When I bought it, I was only the second owner !

What are difficult to find for this are the things like the large storage boxes and POW carriers. Shovel mounts on the box on passenger side, and pick and helve on box driver side. And details like the passenger floor mounted grab handle.

Never went for a key start.. I liked the switch and floor start lever...

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Marc Montgomery

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Never went for a key start.. I liked the switch and floor start lever...

Hi Marc

I always felt that CMPs were inherently protected from theft from the casual modern thief. In many countries they are going to climb into the wrong side of the cab in the first place. Then they have to actually be able to read to figure out which lever does what. Then they are going to be limited to about 15 MPH as escape speed because they won't be able to shift out of second gear assuming they can figure out that the can start it in 2nd.

Having said all of that I have added either a fuel shutoff valve or switch to kill the electric fuel pump as a real deterrent. Figure if they are going to steal it then getting it running only to have it die once on the road is more effective.

But back to Gerry's truck, when you sell it hope you will be sure plug the new owner into the MLU and CMP community if they are not already familiar with it.

Cheers Phil