CF Jeep CJ7 photo reference gallery

[Robin Craig]

76612 was taken at what I am thinking is armouries that were on Rideau Street in Ottawa. It was a multi storey brick building that is now apartments. This was 1989.

[Robin Craig]

The Walkley Road armouries replaced what had been on Rideau Street and was a much better site. It was also just down the road from me and was to become a fertile place to take pictures over the years.

This next vehicle suffers from an identity crisis. It is also why I have learned over the years to be careful about saying "never" versus "hardly ever". Even people in the CF are human. Can anyone spot the anomaly?

A very plain Jane vehicle.

[Robin Craig]

You will have to look very carefully to see it.

[Robin Craig]

Still not sure what your looking for? Check these two out very closely and then go back to the first pictures.

[maple_leaf_eh]

I see a couple differnt CFR stencil numbers on the same (?) vehicle.

[rob love]

That's all I can spot.....some militiaman was very enthusiastic with his stencil and spray bomb.

The rear tow shackles appear to be installed in the wrong locations (I think they were supposed to be inside the bumperettes) and the camouflage paint is a locally applied pattern.

The Jeeps shown appear to be from the final purchase in 1985. They have the high back seats and will have a better transmission that the earlier 82 and 83 purchases. The early purchases were for the armoured recce, while the later purchase was to supplement the service battalions. Why they bought CJ7s when they were already producing the Iltis is beyond me. Once the Iltis were issued to the reserves a year or two later, the CJ7s were technically beyond the scales of issue. They were retained as extra, with the provision that they had a one time repair expenditure limit of $500. Some went to log-stock at places like Wainwright, where they would be issued to units (including regular force, who normally would not have the CJ7) as run-around vehicles.

The small tires actually gave the Jeeps a lot of power. They had manual steering as well, so the tiny 6 cylinder 259 engine was ample for these trucks.

[Grant Bowker]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

76612 was taken at what I am thinking is armouries that were on Rideau Street in Ottawa. It was a multi storey brick building that is now apartments. This was 1989.

The building on Rideau Street actually has a more interesting history than just armouries. having been built as a hospital, used as military offices for WRCNS and then more than armouries before becoming condos.

The links below give a bit more than I had known as an Ottawa resident. I hadn't known of the squatters or their eviction by the millitary. I wonder why not the police as it was after the wartime emergency in an abandoned building (i.e. DND didn't have a use for it). I also wasn't aware of the proposal to use the proposal as a municipally run brothel, an amenity still lacking in the National Capital.

When the building was converted to condos I remember thinking the prices were well out of my league. They still are, along with the monthly fees of up to $1000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallis_House
http://capitalneighbourhoods.ca/engl...story-158.aspx
http://www.condosottawa.com/Downtown...89RideauStreet

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

The Walkley Road armouries replaced what had been on Rideau Street and was a much better site.

Better is a relative term. The Major Holland Armoury is a repurposed recplex in a part of town known for property crime and other "activity". Add to that the religious worship facility located a block behind it that complains to the Ottawa Police every time Unit's conduct a Battle Fitness Testing because they feel its a threatening show of force.... Fun times on Walkley Road

[Robin Craig]

Rob is the closest on what I am barking on about.

Look very closely

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[servicepub (RIP)]

Further to Robin's excellent threads, I found this in my files, dated 1984. Can anyone provide background?
Clive

[Robin Craig]

Clive,

thank you for the comment.

if you have a vehicle that fits the thread that I have started you are more than welcome to drop your in as well, in fact I think that would be the right thing to do so, and thereby keep all that material together no matter who took the photos but as long as they are "in service" images. I just want to keep that purity in the thread.

I'm not a jeep expert so I can not ID this vehicle but it looks like a CJ7 doesn't it?

R

[servicepub (RIP)]

Can a mod move this?
C

[rob love]

It is a CJ7. You can tell by the wide doors. A CJ5 would have the same shaped doors as a M38A1.

The CJ7s first came into production in 1976, and continued until 1986.

On any CJ, the longer fenders are an indication of post 1971production. There is an extra 5" added to the back of the fenders compared to the pre-1971 CJs. This allowed the longer engines like the inline 6 Cylinder, or the 304 V-8.

The CJ7 shown is a fairly late one.....earliest date would be a 1981/1982 model I believe. The paddle type door handles are the giveaway vs the older style door handles used prior.

[rob love]

The CFR is stenciled on the glove box, the seat backs, and the sun-visors. In the photo of the glove box, it shows 76618 and the other photo shows 76617 on the visors and seats. Not sure if the photos are of the same vehicle as you can't see the dash and the visors at the same time.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by servicepub

Can a mod move this?
C

Done.

H.

[Robin Craig]

And the winner of the January 2014 rivet counting award goes to Mr Rob Love!

That is the very same vehicle Rob, the glove box contradicts all the other stencils and the licence plate. I show it as a caution to those who rely on just one such detail to identify vehicles, watch out, even in service they are not perfect like you think they should be.

[rob love]

I think Terry called it first in post #5.

Kind of reminds me of a LK6 rough terrain forklift we had in KAF. After about 4 months in KAF, I realized that two different forklifts were both using the same CFR number. It took some searching on the EDR viewer to figure out the proper CFR for the mystery forklift, and sure enough, the last info on it was that it had been VMOd in to KAF, then nothing.

I have seen CFR plates applied to the wrong vehicles on a few occasions. Not really a problem until the time comes to dispose of them, and the bill of sale will reflect the wrong serial number.