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02-10-13, 05:01
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As a follow on to my above post, and one that may get me shot. Bill Gregg did some ground-breaking work but some of his conclusions may have been limited by the information available to him.
In his ground-breaking book "Blueprint for Victory" he shows (images 3-10) a Ford 15cwt which he calls "Prototype I". This is actually the pilot model submitted to DND in 1937 for the 1938 purchase of 52 vehicles. I find it difficult to accept "Prototype I" as it implies that there were other prototypes prior to the purchase, when there weren't. This 'pilot' was paid for, and kept, by DND and the truck was given DND number 37-1-1. The GM pilot was 37-1-2. Bill also shows (image 25) a truck which he calls a prototype of 1939 when this is one of the 52 15cwt GS trucks contracted for by DND in 1938. This example is shown approx 1940 at the Cdn Armoured Fighting Vehicle School. Clive
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02-10-13, 05:46
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Clive
No need to dig out your body armour. Bill Gregg did some great work that is a benefit to us all, and he did it at a time when all of Canada's production efforts prior to and during World War Two, had largely been forgotten and were rapidly slipping away from us. He got us thinking and asking questions in the ongoing quest for answers about this amazing time in Canadian history.
It is hard sometimes for us to shake ourselves free from the world we know today and are comfortable with, and try to understand that the world of the 30's, or 40's or 50's was a different place, functioning in a different way that worked very well. Bill Gregg's real legacy is the framework of information he was able to assemble. He would have been the first to admit it was not a complete, fully fleshed out product and he would be thrilled to see how much more information we have discovered and been able to add to his baseline. Who knows where it will lead in the future and what gems of discovery are yet to be found, not just here in Canada, but Australia, New Zealand, and anywhere else on the globe where CMP's have left there tracks. David
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09-05-16, 23:17
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Hey Rob - Are you still working on the above vehicle? Don and I have the one that we bought pieces of from Gary Moonie virtually up and running. #IC-5984. Don did an amazing job of repairing and putting all the hand cut body parts back together, mostly with the original wing nuts rather than bolts, engine is fully rebuilt, (seems to run well with 100 yards on it - ha ha ), most body parts refurbished, all new brake lines, 6 volt wiring harness, switches and gauges rejuvenated by Sid Moorehouse here in Victoria, new rear wooden box made with all the original hardware. Don made a heavy duty jig and then used an anchor chain link (for the curve) to straighten out and then hand hammer both of the folded over and ruined rear fenders. Front bumper all redone to the correct curve by Pat Houle and his wonder press.
We are having problems with the clutch linkage and wondered if you had a picture of yours. The clutch will not dis-engage and the linkage bent!!!!! Cannot find another one. Let us know how you are doing Cheers Katrinka and Don Picture of "Papa Bud" Papa Bud Nov 16 2015 (38).jpg
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17-07-22, 09:55
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“This is a left-hand drive Canadian Army Pilot Model 15 Cwt.1 4X2 truck manufactured by The Ford Motor Company of Canada in late 1939 or early 1940. There were only 50 of these trucks made by Ford and 51 manufactured by General Motors of Canada. Together they were the precursors of the Canadian Military Pattern (CMP) vehicles manufactured in large numbers by both companies during the Second World War. This truck was used by the Victoria Rifles of Canada. CWM 20190197-001” AC6FDAF2-0542-49EF-A814-E62057B141B4.jpeg
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17-07-22, 13:58
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Beautiful piece. Ours still sits unfinished.
I have learned of a 5th example in Alberta, but it is more of a parts source.....not much left of it. It was offered to the Shilo museum, but then covid happened and we have lost touch.
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10-05-16, 04:04
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Not wishing to hijack the thread but the following two articles on early development of the Canadian 15cwt may be of interest.
https://servicepub.wordpress.com/201...n-army-part-1/ https://servicepub.wordpress.com/201...n-army-part-2/
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10-05-16, 05:21
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Very nice. Not a lot of progress on this one. Higher priorities have developed, and seem to keep cropping up. I need to get it painted this summer so I can continue the work through the winter. I'll look at the clutch linkage tomorrow and see if it is original. There are two others...one at the Cdn War Museum, and the last one I think went to Arlon Bauer in Alberta. That still leave the potential of 45 more...who knows? A fellow from Saskatchewan dropped by last year and left a photo of his pilot Chevrolet. So even one or two of those survived.
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